Soo, whens fire getting a buff?

[Olaf]

Riddle me this... why do people pump endless rounds into an enemy with 9 armor plates without bothering to break the armor, then complain about bullet sponges?

Ah, perhaps they thought Jorge was going to crack the armor?

i understand that, i actually found using a bio nade was the best route for me to go when using my fire votan.

[Atticus Batman]

Thats very well and good mate, problem is score means nothing when your thinking about DPS. Trion made very sure of that, cannibalizing the score system into what it is now is a joke, DPS / total damage should be a standard column on ANY score board system.

No the problem, is having a score system in a co-op game. It is supposed to be the players versus the world. Not Player versus players versus the world.

[Overtkill21]

Thats very well and good mate, problem is score means nothing when your thinking about DPS. Trion made very sure of that, cannibalizing the score system into what it is now is a joke, DPS / total damage should be a standard column on ANY score board system.

Gaming the scoring system is how the game is played - they change the rules, you change how you play or suffer the low score.

On topic, Bio is in fact only the best at dropping armor and NOT at DPS and fire the best at dropping health (aka killing) and not at DPS. No score mention required for those little tidbits.

If you want to talk DPS then grab a No Nano. Which would have no place in a discussion about buffing nanos.

Not talking DPS Olaf, talking about whether Fire needs a buff and it doesn't.

[dramaQkarri]

No the problem, is having a score system in a co-op game. It is supposed to be the players versus the world. Not Player versus players versus the world.

Well said.

And that being said, fire does not need a buff. It needs to be used in the right situations. I'm a big fire fan but not on everything! OP needs to adjust.

If anything needs a buff it's syphon. But only a little bit to make syphon weapons worth it again. I still use it but not very much.

Lately I've been a big electric fan, myself. OK that's a weird sentence but I think you know what I mean.

Try using flashbang nades with fire guns - freeze 'em and mow 'em down!

[Overtkill21]

No the problem, is having a score system in a co-op game. It is supposed to be the players versus the world. Not Player versus players versus the world.

I liked the old score system. It was straight forward. But the new one changes the focus of play to nano choice over all. A nano that ticks, or two that tick will jack your score right up over others.

A nano that more efficiently finishes off a foe will also jack up your score.

Hence why Fire is fantastic and needs no buff at all (at least with this new score system)

[Olaf]

Gaming the scoring system is how the game is played - they change the rules, you change how you play or suffer the low score.

On topic, Bio is in fact only the best at dropping armor and NOT at DPS and fire the best at dropping health (aka killing) and not at DPS. No score mention required for those little tidbits.

If you want to talk DPS then grab a No Nano. Which would have no place in a discussion about buffing nanos.

Not talking DPS Olaf, talking about whether Fire needs a buff and it doesn't.

Gaming the score system is indeed how the game has to be played now, which is a result of the devs r3tard3d score system. It is very clear thats how the game is played by alot of people, all you have todo is go into a warmaster and inspect the top scorers to see that. I've grown fonder of no nanos since this DLC though which is a good thing =)

On a side note: how about trion introduces NATURAL nano conversion to the arkforge repertoire, I would happily pay arkforge to convert some of my guns nano's without needing to waste my mag slot.

[dramaQkarri]

Gaming the score system is indeed how the game has to be played now, which is a result of the devs r3tard3d score system. It is very clear thats how the game is played by alot of people, all you have todo is go into a warmaster and inspect the top scorers to see that. I've grown fonder of no nanos since this DLC though which is a good thing =)

On a side note: how about trion introduces NATURAL nano conversion to the arkforge repertoire, I would happily pay arkforge to convert some of my guns nano's without needing to waste my mag slot.

No argument with the thought that the new score system absolutely blows. I've adjusted. It still blows.

I just like shooting red dots dead.

[Nefarious]

today i picked up a fire votan pulser and love it but have noticed it is next to useless against any enemy with an armor plate compared to my bio springer.

With patch 1.509 it introduced ...

"* Hitting enemies in their weak spots now avoids the regular damage reduction from Armor Plates."

Fire and Electric are good at what they do and don't need buffs against armor plates.

Nor does Syphon need any sorts of buffs imo. Because the way Syphon works I can pull the impossable off in PvE. I can stand toe to toe with threat level 10 enemies. Anything below threat level 10 Im near if not totally invincible because of Syphon. Syphon needs a lot of pieces to make it good. With a near perfect gear set up Syphon is pure beast mode.

[Extreme Rugburn]

I use a Bio SMG and an electric Thunder. The Thunder is by far the better weapon with double crit, double damage, and all T5 mods, however the SMG is actually more effective and it has one crit, one damage and all T3 mods. It baffles me... The Electric Thunder is pointless since by the time I have removed all the armor plates I have also removed the shields, thus needing to switch to the Thunder is moot. I wish I could change my Thunder to BIO or Radiation.

[duction]

siphon wants a buff while you're at it...

i agree is needs a dmg buff