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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
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    On a side note: how about trion introduces NATURAL nano conversion to the arkforge repertoire, I would happily pay arkforge to convert some of my guns nano's without needing to waste my mag slot.
    Word - this seems so very common sense but y'know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreHedzthanHydra View Post
    Riddle me this... why do people pump endless rounds into an enemy with 9 armor plates without bothering to break the armor, then complain about bullet sponges?

    Ah, perhaps they thought Jorge was going to crack the armor?
    Not everyone has a bio weapon, you know. If it was available as a magazine mod, it would be a different story. Now that criticals bypass armor, bio's usefulness took a drop, anyway.

    Enemies are still massive bullet sponges when they can eat a full ammo supply of criticals and not even lose their shield.

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    Fire's fine, especially with the change that makes Crits ignore Armor. If anything needs tweaking regarding Fire vs. Bio, it's the number of Armor Plates certain enemies have (Viscera, Rioters, and Bulwarks spring to mind).

    I still think that Siphon needs retooling to be more in line with the other Nanos. Switch the proc to a minor DoT with some secondary effect and up the card damage from 75% to 90%. This would make the damage equivalent to Bio, but with a drain effect instead of the Armor removal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobalobasileus View Post
    Not everyone has a bio weapon, you know. If it was available as a magazine mod, it would be a different story. Now that criticals bypass armor, bio's usefulness took a drop, anyway.

    Enemies are still massive bullet sponges when they can eat a full ammo supply of criticals and not even lose their shield.
    then use a bio grenade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atticus Batman View Post
    then use a bio grenade.
    Which are available to everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreHedzthanHydra View Post
    Riddle me this... why do people pump endless rounds into an enemy with 9 armor plates without bothering to break the armor, then complain about bullet sponges?

    Ah, perhaps they thought Jorge was going to crack the armor?
    Personally, I have this notion many people aren't used to the new system yet and fully don't understand it. I'm not sure if this is inexperience with video games and MMO's, an old-habits-die-hard thing, or what.

    Half the fun now is designing loadouts to fight various mobs, built around specific weapon types and nano requirements. My personal favorite is an electrical/fire loadout against Volge. There are also single target loadouts, sniper loadouts where i rotate what sniper rifle I used based on the mob type, etc.

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    I know what the fix is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf View Post
    i understand that, i actually found using a bio nade was the best route for me to go when using my fire votan.
    did you just an swear your own question? Only nano that needs a buff is syphon, needs a small damage buff.
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    Trust me in that Syphon doesn't need buffs. For sure Syphon seems lack luster by itself but a lot of players are using any generic syphon nano weapon with any random synergy and expect it to be amazing. You need the right weapon, synergy, and perks. Its something that you need to put some effort into making.

    I pretty much use Syphon nano exclusively, its always been my favorite nano. And I can tell everyone right now with the right set up it can easily be argued that it is over powered. But you need 'all the pieces to puzzle'.

    For example, when I go into a minor Ark Break with a few or a couple of other players and the threat level is 8 or below I can stand in the middle of open space and get shot by every Volge in the place and not die. I can stand in the middle of them all while getting shot up and take them out because Syphon keeps replenishing my shields and health.

    Its pretty crazy what can be done with it but my set up is something Ive been wanting to put together since the start of the game. Waiting for the right gun, the right synergy to go with it, and the right shield to put it all together to be able to do so. Some things take time and luck to be built up to be truly amazing. Syphon is one of these things.

    Im not going to list out what to use because its not hard to figure out. Get yourself a quality high mag weapon with a nano based synergy. Equip nano based perks. And get yourself the best high capacity shield (we all know which one that is) Try that and then say Syphon needs a buff. Ya wont, you will be saying "this is ridiculous. My character is not a Human/Irathient/Castithan its a Terminator that has crossed over into the Defiance Universe. I hope Trion never looks into Syphon because it should be nerfed."

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    Am I the only one who uses a Sludge RL in my off hand? Then your free to use any nano and not worry about armor!
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