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    people have already said it doesn't work with thick skinned or any other skill that says "on a shield break", you basically get the critical and reload up and that's it.

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    I think it was intentional. When you have perks like thick skinned, risk taker, and escape artist, you have a pattern. They knew they wanted those on shield break. When they came up with survival instinct and kill or be killed, I think they had borderlands in mind. There is no question that borderlands has influenced this game and what does that game have? They have skills that work without a shield. They even came out with the rough rider shield. A shield without a shield. I believe the dev team wanted to mimic but never got around to making one. The only ones who came claim it was intentional or not is the dev team. Unless we can get a confirmation about it, we can only argue whether or not it is working as intended.


    That said, I don't believe this is bad for the game. If thick skinned and any other perk that has shield break requirements does work, then I believe it is a bug.

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    These 3 EGO Perks:
    • Kill or Be Killed: You deal more critical damage when your shields are empty (+45% Crit Mult)
    • Nothing to Lose: You deal more melee damage when your shields are down (+30% Melee DMG) - which you can then stack with Weapon bonuses that are identical.
    • Survival Instinct: You reload faster when your shields are empty (+45% Reload)
    Appear to be the only 3 affected then.
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    How does this work? Please elaborate. Im all for high risk high reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DopedGoat View Post
    How does this work? Please elaborate. Im all for high risk high reward.
    Don't equip a shield, get bonuses to crit, reload and melee.

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    Oh sweet yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Error404 View Post
    So, right now, I and a few others are having fun exploting something that has been marked in 'Known Issues' as a bug.
    Yup, this is the risk of publishing a transparent known issues list. However, this is indeed a bug and one we have slated to be fixed in our next hotfix (or two if we get one out later today).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapes View Post
    Yup, this is the risk of publishing a transparent known issues list. However, this is indeed a bug and one we have slated to be fixed in our next hotfix (or two if we get one out later today).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironcladtrash View Post
    What about thick skinned too? (Can't test it out at the moment). I am with you it should be fixed.
    It does sound like a cool new strategy to run with out a shield. Except for the fact there are too many ways this could be taken advantage of and exploited, especially for PVP.
    There is a grand total of THREE perks this works with. THREE.

    Survival Instinct - 45% reload whilst shield down.
    Kill or be Killed - 45% crit whilst shield down
    Nothing to lose - 30% meleee damage whilst shield down.

    There is no 'invincibility' or even 'near invincibility' as no 'On shield break' perks work as...Well, you don't have a shield TOO break, or even recharge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scapes View Post
    Yup, this is the risk of publishing a transparent known issues list. However, this is indeed a bug and one we have slated to be fixed in our next hotfix (or two if we get one out later today).
    How is it a bug when it's working exactly as intended? All the devs are doing in this case is pulling another 'Grenades' on us.

    Something is working perfectly fine and AS INTENDED (for once!) and y'all gonna **** it up.

    Something fun? Patched in seconds.

    Game breaking as hell? Still in since the game started. Makes no sense. At all.

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