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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRaze View Post
    Do you share your car or groceries with a million other people? Didn't think so. Also, do people program your groceries? Nope? And your car, isn't it in it's own little pre-beta about 5yrs before being mass produced? Yes? Ok, so shut the **** up.
    I see your point of view, but to be fair sometimes if you're having a larger party or something of that sort you have to contact the restaurant a couple days ahead so they can be prepared for the thirty meals you're going to order all at once. I see where you're coming from with the car part too, it's a few thousand dollars and then after years of being built and tested IT might even have problems. At the same time though, a car is a few thousand dollars and I drive mine every single day with 165,000 miles on it. I can honestly say there is no game that I have ever played probably 300/365 days in a year. So cars are used much much more and are a lot more high maintenance than a game. If I bought a $60 fancy table set because I felt like being nice and then we tried to use it and one of the bottoms from the glass just fell out when we picked it up, you better believe I'd return that.
    I can see your point of view but at the same time personally I just expect a product to work when purchased, I see your reasoning with the car that still has problems. For my car, I've never had any major problems. I change the oil on schedule, I've replaced a few tires, this is a '92 GT Celica convertible that my dad had before me, and it still has the exact same top that it had when purchased. So with a car that costs a few thousand dollars, there haven't been any major issues that aren't to be expected over time. The only major thing I can think of is that the alignment was fixed a couple months ago, in 2013, so twenty-one years after this car was made we had to fix that.

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    Taking any side comment is navigating stormy waters, let hope the Trion take the issues seriously (and i think they do) and fix it as soon as POSSIBLE. Let's not lose or minds about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRaze View Post
    Do you share your car or groceries with a million other people?
    Neither does Defiance. A million gamer's? In one day? Yeah right. What d'you think this is, Halo?

    If it wasn't ready to launch, then I'd have been perfectly happy to wait. Days, weeks, months. Doesn't matter. I have half a dozen other games I can be playing.

    But to launch a brand new I.P in such a broken state, is just plane greedy. I respect they had to launch in time with the show, but pissing gamer's off in such a way will only backfire.

    Trion had no problem taking my money for in-game transactions. Not surprisingly that worked perfectly fine. But actually giving me anything for the £20 they took off me is a different matter.

    I'll give it to the end of the week, after that it's trade-in time (before it really looses value once the market finds out what a f**k up Defiance is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wash View Post
    Not being able to download the patch due to traffic is one thing.

    The patcher starting to download (at a mighty 0.24mbps), crapping out at 25% then not being able to resume from where it left off once it's re-established connection to the server, in the 21st century, is just laughable.
    True, see it'd be different if we couldn't download it because of traffic. But it's ridiculous when we download it, and it still doesn't work. If it was just that the speeds were slow I'd understand it somewhat. But I had the same problem and now when I finally got it downloaded, when I try to update the patch today I get "Patch Error. Please try again later" ... after it's already been downloaded and started to install.

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    Honestly patience is the key, but also honestly patcher problems for big mmos that appear in beta/launch day get ironed out that very same day. This is a big enough issue to request a refund for and I don't wanna because it looks fun!

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    Even after you fix it and the servers are working, there's a chance your game half crashes leaving it open in the Task bar, with audio running, but no ability to alt tab or anything back into game, a disabled mouse icon, and the need to ctrl alt Delete into Task Manager and shut it down, this after a 24 hour stint of trying to get my game working for £35 is tempting me to get my refund and go back to a working game.

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    same issues

    I have to agree Trion appears to be failing miserably. Sure you have a great game but if your customers arent able to play it your going to drive your customer base away. And to those like saintraize im guessing you probably got the game to download and patch with no problem. My download starts and trickels down to .08mb and it tells me its going to take 1 day and 12 hours to download. Funny thing is i can download something via other sites and my download speed is right where its supposed to be. Then to try and contact customer service via the website and it not to work. It says that trion is just ignoring the problem and hoping that gamers will go away. Well Im not im demanding a refund they should have been prepared for this problem, i mean didnt they learn anything from the simcity fiasco.

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    Saintraize is just a fanboy or troll.

    he posted this, admiting he doesn't even own it yet.

    I don't know about all the PC issues, I'm an Xbox player and also haven't picked up my copy yet, but it clearly says on the website that they are aware of the issues and have the full staff working on it, yet these ***** continue to ***** and complain because they'd rather the devs respond to them than fix the issue that they already know about.
    They will make updates based on feedback like every other MMO has...ever. So if you bought the game and aren't satisfied because the first week is rocky, you shouldn't be playing MMOs.

    on this thread here : http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...785#post179785

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    I agree. I'm really fed up with this critical patching error and what makes it even worse is that there seems to be little to no response from Trion on it. I've repeatedly asked them on their twitter what is going on with it, as undoubtedly many other people have, and we're still being ignored. Such a crucial bug should be the number one priority, not making the game smoother for the people who are lucky enough to be able to play as and when.

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    Look at all the other game releases that had bigger issues than this. Trion Worlds is doing a good job. I am sorry a few of you are having an issue - I would sugest deleteing what you have and re-download the game client and reinstall/down the game. Hopefully it works - Make sure when you have the client that you select the NA server for North America, or the EU server for Europe.

    Only issue I see is they don't have enough servers that are all around to download the game from (If your in Texas you can download the game from a Texas server, if in Iowa then download from a server in Chicago or a server near you.) Yes the game is slow download - You have over 5,000 people downloading the game off one server - get over it - not a bit torrent.
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