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    Quote Originally Posted by Momaw View Post
    Your point does not stop this from being poor mission design. If the mission requires 30 well armed players to do, then it shouldn't actually START until there are 30 well armed players. This isn't Dark Souls, people coming into this aren't masochists.
    Did you read my whole response? I clearly stated that it was a poorly implemented event. That doesn't mean people lose the 'right' to be frustrated when moving past the 'oh well the game isn't done right' mentality to actually attempting to instruct players on what needs to be done. The mission doesn't need 30 well armed players. Each lower EGO player means you need someone to make up for them. Each player hell bent on leveling an infector needs someone to make up for them. The people coming in there either don't know or don't care. THAT is the biggest battle. Focusing on the former and attempting to make up for the latter.

    EDIT: And as Griffix already pointed out... we HAVE been vocal about them fixing it. That doesn't mean we give up.
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    If you went to a bank 500 times, but only robbed it twice, does that make it ok?

    Im not actually comparing you to a criminal lol, but I just mean its all in perspective. From now on, anyone in that WM with you will think your a lockbreaker, and lockbreakers are generally disliked. I would have yelled at you too man, if i see ANYONE breaking locks, i make their live a living hell. Its the only way to curb this idiotic trend with the lock trolls. Joining them will only encourage their evil ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momaw View Post
    You lose any right to be outraged by what other people do, when you play in a MMOG with public random matches. If game content REQUIRES fore-knowledge to complete, then what you need to do is go bother Trion about their bad mission design.
    You sound like a new player. The player community has been asking the devs to do this since day 1 of the release of Arkbreaker. It has come up more than once during the Q&A sessions during the Defiance portion of Trion's Friday Live Stream broadcasts. Trick has pretty much flatly said that they aren't going to do anything to change the design of the Warmaster fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Momaw View Post
    Your point does not stop this from being poor mission design. If the mission requires 30 well armed players to do, then it shouldn't actually START until there are 30 well armed players. This isn't Dark Souls, people coming into this aren't masochists.
    It doesn't take 30 players. It wasn't even designed to accommodate more than 24 players. Players are simply using a loophole in group mechanics to circumvent the queuing cap.

    It's actually possible to solo the Warmaster but, because it scales, every player that doesn't know what they are doing offsets that. If you took the top ten damage dealers in most instances and kicked out the rest of the players those remaining players would probably kill the Warmaster the majority of the time so your solution is a non-solution.

    Major Arkbreaks need larger grouping options where players can group at least up to dozen before even going into the queue and not have the group split apart to different instances. The upper half generally carries the lower half anyway so 12 well organized and informed players will often get the job done even when the instance is at capacity. Trick has made it pretty clear that that is not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Unshackled View Post
    Nope 3 months on xbox day 1 on pc today is one of my be a **** days i always wait for people but today i am letting out stress on defiance anyone who knows me knows im far from a lock breaker. So i do apologize for breaking locks i dont apoligize for what i said in zone after all the butthurt comments
    Do you not understand that simply acting like a considerate human being doesn't qualify you as a Saint? "I normally don't break the locks" doesn't translate into "I'm a Paladin of virtue".

    On the other hand, breaking the locks 'just for trolling kicks', even once, *does* definitively and instantly categorize you as selfish, inconsiderate, and rude. Getting a big, unapologetic guffaw out of it afterward reveals more about your character than all the times you simply acted like a considerate human being (and nothing more).

    Way to crap on people, be proud of it, and then try to justify it by framing yourself as a "good guy" for simply restraining yourself from crapping on people in the past.

    Someone needs a logic class and personal character overhaul.

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