Devs ! Why not making the Openwold PVP like the freeroam from red dead redemption ?

[Sarcon]

Sorry to say but it's your PvP that will mostly determine how well a game will do. Catering to PvE will only get you into trouble. Shadow War stuff isn't open world PvP, you que up for it. PvP in the form of sign ups hasn't worked since, well hell it's never worked IMO. Star Wars the Old Republic was leagues ahead of Defiance in terms of popularity this close to release. SWTOR made a great PvE game, PvP is pretty much crap..... and look what ended up happening. Nearly half their subscriber base left since release, all but 1 or 2 people who actually created the game are still working for BioWare, and it's largely considered an unsuccessful attempt. Open world PvP is better than qued up PvP, don't go the latter route.

yes you queue up for shadow wars but you remain within the open world where everyone else is playing (think of it like 48 group vs 48 group war), its very likely that PVE people will stumble upon a shadow wars fight and can spectate.

[Stew360]

Sorry, but Open World PvP only appeals to those who enjoy it, and have the time to hone their skills. To get a broad range of people into the game, OWPvP is a terrible idea. You want PvP? You have your shadow wars. Forcing people into it isn't fair and it isn't fun, and it doesn't inspire community or teach people to play better. It also ruins the cooperative aspect of this game. PvP at an Arkfall for instance? Sure! If you don't mind the entire thing failing every time because of zerg crews or everyone PvPing to kill other players while the arkfall counts down to failure.

No ones as ever forced you , if their is PVP/PVE servers their will be PVE servers only as well , No ones force you at anything , you dont like it you dont play it you stay in your safe PVE only servers

Its like having game with friendly fire on and friendly fire off some prefer on some prefer Off no ones ask to force you at anything you choose whats you like

SO why are you forcing me in openwold PVE only ? WHY ARE YOU FORCING ME IN OPEN WOLD PVE ONLY ? WHY YOU HAVE THE RIGTH TO DO IT ? When i offer you a choice ?

So remember thats letting us having it dont force you by any mean to choose those servers

[Inquisitioner]

I despise pvp in all MMO's myself. While the red dead freeroam was fun, it's pvp aspect was terrible. While doing some challenge or so, you could just get randomly killed by someone whom wants to grief. It was basically an death match game with whole red dead world as the map. Therefore, I just made private free roams and played with friends.

I find it truly hypocritical to state "It is unfair to force me to PVE only but fair for me to force you to PVP" In other words, I think the most optimal choice regardless, is to have a PVP server and PVE or if on same server, allow everyone a choice of entering PVP and leaving it.

It seems far more ridiculous to force someone into PVP rather than force them into PVE. Since in one players will be killed all the time if at an disadvantage, while in the latter everyone will be alive and playing.

[Fiancee]

Well, Darkfall is my open world PVP game, it can be so fun if game is designed to be one. Yeah, maybe its better that kind of games are own type of games. On top of that Darkfall has even full loot, it just adds the excitement.

[Kiss]

Im here becouse the game have an world PVE, just saying.

[Dead_Phoenix]

No ones as ever forced you , if their is PVP/PVE servers their will be PVE servers only as well , No ones force you at anything , you dont like it you dont play it you stay in your safe PVE only servers

Its like having game with friendly fire on and friendly fire off some prefer on some prefer Off no ones ask to force you at anything you choose whats you like

SO why are you forcing me in openwold PVE only ? WHY ARE YOU FORCING ME IN OPEN WOLD PVE ONLY ? WHY YOU HAVE THE RIGTH TO DO IT ? When i offer you a choice ?

So remember thats letting us having it dont force you by any mean to choose those servers

i agree people should always have a choice, however it will only spilt the population, and be completly against the whole ethos of the defiance world.

besides it will never happen. they have made a completly different armour set etc to keep pvp balanced as well as other balancing effects, if they just opened up shadow war people will run around in pve gear. which is always a proven disaster, nearly every game that features seperate pvp like features have always used seperate pvp armour.

[Shoyuchicken]

I think the main reason for no open world, free-for-all PvP is because it introduces social elements that are counter-productive to the PvE aspects of the game. You're rarely gonna have guilds fighting over Arkfalls. More than likely you'll just have a few bored jackholes rolling up on Arkfalls and killing the players just to screw them over.

It's one of the reasons that people stopped fighting world bosses in WoW o PvP servers. I would be pissed if I spent and hour or two rounding up my guildies just to have 4 or 5 jerks come and screw things up for us. (I don't know how the shadow war thing works, but I'm assuming it's elective.)

Just my take on it...

[JustinD92]

Its PvE and PvP and everything else combined because that's the way the cookie crumbles my friend. The motion of the ocean.