Warmaster Event Changes in Defiance 2.1

[Deunan]

Great update! Been waiting for this since it was announced.

Favorite Weapon: VOT Mazu Blast Rifle

This alone speaks volumes as to why your kind thinks this is a great update.

[DSW]

so if lock keepers are the minority how come every war master chamber i enter has way more keepers than breakers? They keepers outnumber the breakers at least 10-1 in every chamber I'm in

i start to think that someone with name starting in T doesn't care about EU player base at all. and from what i read about NA players, well.. *sigh*

[Reeco Petoe]

Look at it this way...

Heavy hitters can now troll the lock breakers by massively outscoring them!!!

[Chaos0vt]

Strange how lock keepers are the minority, id say that the people your pissing off are the day one veterans and catering to the new player base that couldn't be bothered to pay for the game and are only venturing in because its free!!!! Im all for getting a bigger player base but don't forget who your original player base are. Reward instead of punish those that have been playing this game from day 1, it will create a better experience for the newer players as well. You want new players to enjoy the game then giving them a stigma from the start isn't going to be great for them as higher egos will either mess their gameplay up or avoid the situations where higher ego players are critical.

[TheOz]

" no sir i dont like it "

Horse - from Ren & Stimpy?

[stefb42]

Look at it this way...

Heavy hitters can now troll the lock breakers by massively outscoring them!!!

except they can't as the scores have been capped, teamwork never goes above 8 points at a time and maxes out quick, sure 10-20k can be gotten by opportunist, but you need to not be hit to keep that going and the wm likes to actively target those hitting hardest, most of the points comes from the kill which wont happen anymore,

hmmm just a thought, another way of gimping arkforge? They have been seriously gimping the score we can get in a wm for quite a while, most scores plateau around the 120k mark without boosts or the kill, lower score = lower forge rewards, in fact in noticing lower scores across the board at most events, i came 1st at a helion with a paltry score of ~70k last night

[squidgod2000]

So you call out the players that lock keep as you so put it and say we "constitute a small minority"? Sir, your and the rest of your company's ignorance has skyrocketed to the levels of Nexon with that paragraph there. What many have called this (a slap, middle finger, etc) are correct in calling what you've said here and have basically angered a great deal of the minority you've called out and it is a large degree of this game's community!

Also called us all exploiters.

[MadMax2047]

It will be nice to see the group formed outside and split before getting inside....
They can't even guarantee that the group will ended up on the same instance. Say you group 24 players outside but you may end up in an instance with 10 players or less. It happened to me.
I wasted 4 spikes batteries and brought the ark down, the group cleared outside, then I entered, and I realized that the WM was free already. I was like WTF, but when I got down there, there were 2 minutes left on time to kill him. Then I realized again that I wasn't in the instance I brought down at the first place, it was another instance and there were about 10 players only, of course it was a fail. So, what is the point on spending money on the DLC to get the ark spike batteries if there is not guarantee who used 4 spikes can play the instance he brought down?

From 16 tries to kill WM I only succeeded on 2 with different numbers of players, from 24 to 40. It's not easy now, it will be even worse. I'm ashamed I spent money on this game/DLC. I guess minor arkfall will have to do for now until I leave to Destiny or BF4 updates..

[squidgod2000]

except they can't as the scores have been capped, teamwork never goes above 8 points at a time and maxes out quick, sure 10-20k can be gotten by opportunist, but you need to not be hit to keep that going and the wm likes to actively target those hitting hardest, most of the points comes from the kill which wont happen anymore

Actually, most of the points come from armor breaks.

[jackdaws_1999]

If your affraid to alienate a large community, who you gonna call... Trion Worlds.
When there's something strange in the game you wrote, who you not gonna call... Trion Worlds.
When there's no way your ever gonna fix the bugs, who you gonna work for.... Trion Worlds.
I aint afraid of no Bugs.


As a veteran gamer (since 1986), and a seasoned indie developer(writing my own games since 1988), I have never seen one person cut off and alienate so many people with one sweeping comment. I have never seen one game company shoot themselves in the foot SO MANY times in the lifetime of one game. I have never seen so much pent up Hatred towards one games company.

I love defiance, this is why I get so damned worked up when something this stupid comes along. I gave the developers room when Pay to win was announced (tell me its not pay to win when you can PAY to get OJs from a warmaster, since we shall see very few wins from now on, therefore Paying for something you cannot get normally through gameplay). I said nothing when they destroyed a perfectly good grenade system that gave people differing styles of gameplay, in favour of a stripped down dull system thats left most with Hatchlings for pvp, Bio for incursions, and Pyro for co-op. I said nothing when they basically said "You see all those great weapons you farmed your *** off for? They are now USELESS... here is something shiney for you to look at". I gave them the benefit of the doubt when they said "Heres a new scoreing system... we dont need it, the existing damage system is fine... but we want to lay the ground work for Score Boosts".

This new system could have been better thought out, I would say wait 3 minutes till the locks were breakable, then another 3 minutes before they auto break... that would be a nice period of time for people to get in... after the MILLION and One DC's... I swear defiance has more DC's than a comic book convention... especially in wms.

Now you want to publish what is basically as was said earlier, a Big Middle finger to veteran players who have been here since the beta, a big slap in the face for all season pass holders, and a massive misconception of what the community wants and or needs. Yes, there was a split between a SMALL Minority of people who want to break the locks early (I speak from EU xbox perspective here... trust me its a Minority here) and the VAST majority who wish to wait till everyone is:
A) prepared to fight (i.e. just arrived and so needs to get the correct load out),
B) Have enough people to kill the warmaster (20 Minimum with current scaling),
C) are finished getting ALL the people who just spent 10 mins outside fighting their way through the enemies only to get DC'd on entry, due to the Awesome Sauce servers and super high Quality coding from a team that NO LONGER work for trion, and since its only Fair that they dont get penalised for being DC'd. The process of rebooting and or reconnecting can take anywhere from 2 minutes to 8 minutes depending on platform (my xbox takes 5 minutes to boot up and load defiance).
D) want to actually get a score that gets them something close to worthwhile arkforge, keys, script and salvage.

This new system punishes the Many, in favour of the Few... admitedly on the xbox EU servers at any rate... then again, we are the ugly ginger headed step children of the defiance universe, who happen to be the most consistant in killing the warmaster...

Trick needs to appologise for his choice of wording, and simply state " I did this because Grenades"