When should I buy the orange blade?

[BIEBERyoloSWAG]

just use a blue. I did forever and then got an orange and noticed no difference

[Belle Starr]

How soon do you want to get killed?

Swords are bad. If anyone tells you otherwise, ask them to show their sword to a Volge Viscera (or any enemy which is larger than they are) and to report their results.

Actually I've killed a Viscera and a Hulker with a sword (not at the same time, silly)... of course, it probably was a good thing I also had several clan mates shooting them a lot at the same time and that I have good shields and a high EGO (5500+)

Seriously, I find my sword fun going after things like afflicted or raiders, and the latter don't seem to be able to shoot if you are hitting them with a sword. I also find the sword fun when I just want to do something different than the norm, like an arena or even a coop with just the sword (just have a group that understands for the latter, or they get mad, trust me!)

[Darien]

Actually I've killed a Viscera and a Hulker with a sword (not at the same time, silly)... of course, it probably was a good thing I also had several clan mates shooting them a lot at the same time and that I have good shields and a high EGO (5500+)

Flailing ineffectually while other people shoot it in the face for you is not the same as killing it. I have swung a sword at Warmaster until he died. That does not mean that I killed him.

[Belle Starr]

Flailing ineffectually while other people shoot it in the face for you is not the same as killing it. I have swung a sword at Warmaster until he died. That does not mean that I killed him.

Well, that was insulting! I know I did a great deal of damage because each time I hit I saw the damage I did. I have also killed a Volge trooper and bomber with the sword with no one else around. If you swung a sword at a Warmaster, you are indeed foolish! Just because you might not be able to kill anything with a sword does not give you a reason to be snide to those who can and who enjoy it

[Darien]

Just because you might not be able to kill anything with a sword does not give you a reason to be snide to those who can and who enjoy it

I can kill anything with sword (Except targets that it is impossible to hit). That does not make it a good weapon. Anything you can kill with a sword, I can kill faster and more safely using another weapon. Using my Needler, I will kill most enemies before you even get into melee range.

There are too many drawbacks. Viscera, Hulkers, Tankers, Bulwarks, and, to a lesser extent, enemies like Hellbug Warriors or Volge Bombers will wreck you if you stand directly in their melee range when they are Threat Level 10. You have no nano effects or mods available. You cannot master the sword or get skill increases with it. If anything is not on the same Z-axis as your character, you cannot attack it. You cannot use most grenades, because they will also hit you.

I never said that you could not enjoy using the sword. You just had better also enjoy being ineffective and getting killed.

I have also killed a Volge trooper and bomber with the sword with no one else around.

You killed a threat level 6 as a 5500+ EGO character. Good job. We are all super proud. You could have done that using the single shot pistol that you get when you unequip all weapons.

[Belle Starr]

Boy, you are about as rude as they get! Yes there are lots of weapons easier than the sword to kill things with, but fulfill a contract with a sword or kill a major opponent with just a sword, or do PVP with just a sword (not my cup of tea but I respect those who can), that is a challenge. If you don't want a challenge and just want an efficient and fast killing machine from a distance, there are plenty of excellent sniper weapons out there that kill with one shot. And don't assume I killed those targets recently - you know what they say about assume

To the question asker, buy an orange blade when you want a change of pace and a challenge

[Darien]

And don't assume I killed those targets recently - you know what they say about assume

TL6 is harder than the default enemies used to be. I was trying to give you a little bit a credit, but that appears to not be warranted.

If you have not fought anything with a sword since before threat levels existed, you really have no business arguing that they are good weapons.

[PTR47]

99ers, raiders, the blade is a superior choice due to CC. Running dailies, I'll normally do docks, bolinas, whatever on T6 with a spanner or detonator. If it goes to T10, I switch to my blade loadout because it is a better option (provided I keep an eye on my shield and I don't change targets because they're too close together -- which can happen). But even Bolinas on T10 I'll very rarely need to extract. The difference is the knockback. You can mow down a T10 Blacklung in about 10s because they don't fight back. Monitors you can't stun, which is why the blade fails on DM.

You are welcome to not like blades, but they're good in the right circumstances; much more efficient than my Pulser.

[Darien]

99ers, raiders, the blade is a superior choice due to CC. Running dailies, I'll normally do docks, bolinas, whatever on T6 with a spanner or detonator. If it goes to T10, I switch to my blade loadout because it is a better option (provided I keep an eye on my shield and I don't change targets because they're too close together -- which can happen). But even Bolinas on T10 I'll very rarely need to extract. The difference is the knockback. You can mow down a T10 Blacklung in about 10s because they don't fight back. Monitors you can't stun, which is why the blade fails on DM.

You are welcome to not like blades, but they're good in the right circumstances; much more efficient than my Pulser.

Some rough testing leads me to believe that the fire rate (swing speed?) for a charge blade is about 2.0 and the crit rate is 1.0x (Read: Crits do no extra damage). My 5841 rating Charge Blade does 18046 dmg. That is 36092 DPS.

My Needler has a fire rate of 31.2, magazine of 90, reload of 1, crit of 1.6, and does 2256 dmg. Using the Dux DPS spreadsheet, my Needler does 70,387 DPS (No Reload), 112,620 Crit DPS (No Reload, 100% crit), 52,268 Advanced DPS (Factoring Reload, 0% crit), 83,628 Advanced Crit DPS (Reload, 100% crit).

Sorry, even in the worst case scenario, my Needler absolutely destroys the Charge Blade, and that is not factoring in the time it takes for you to close on the target or the Radiation Nano effect that lets me ignore 4 armor plates. I do not own a VOT Pulser of similar rating, but the math on a Castithan Springer (Pulser Variant) was pretty close to a Needler.

[PTR47]

Yes, but you're dodging. I'm not.

If my rad-modded pulser was more efficient, trust me. I'd use it.