Bloodhound and the 2.106 patch

[TalynOne]

Surge bolter was broken for everything. Volge sieges became one shot fests and races who could aim faster to get the kill. They were also the the go to weapon for Warmaster. Surge bolters simply became the autowin weapon and Trion didn't fix it for months.

[TremerChrist]

I'm a PVE'r, and have to say everything is nerfed because of PVP'rs. All 12 of them that still play pvp. They complain and cry til Trick just can't take it.
Lol, just joking. Is there even enough pvp'rs left for Trion to nerf guns for. Really, this gun was nerfed in less than a week, and the Zagger is left untouched. It was nerfed because Trinot made a mistake and put something fun in the game. Or they like nerfing things so much, they put it in just to nerf it.

[Deunan]

surge bolter as PVP was 1/2 the reason for the Nerf

No it wasn't. Before players like Nilxain and I started explaining in great detail why players were going to end up almost exclusively relying on Surge Bolters at Volge Sieges they did nothing while the PvP players complained about the gun. The only change they did during all that time before was to fix the hip firing mechanic and that's exactly what it was, a fix not a nerf because it was never intended to work that way.

If players hadn't been continuously complaining about PvE and providing feedback in great detail about what was going on at the Sieges, coupled with the predictions about them becoming the sole loadout starting to come true with dozens of players showing up with them, the devs would have never made the adjustments that they did. It's also still considered OP in PvP by some players.

Sawed-off shotguns and shotgun mag mods isn't exactly what I'd call a long list. The list for weapon enhancements they did for PvE over the past year is significantly longer.

[Deunan]

Lol, just joking. Is there even enough pvp'rs left for Trion to nerf guns for.

According to Trick in the last live stream, there were over 60 players in the Shadow War that one of the staff members participated in on the live PC servers.

[Cavadus]

And I said that is only a bug for the Gang Buster not the Bloodhound. Did you ever actually use the weapon or have it used against you?

Never personally used the Bloodhound. I did get a Gangbuster to test the projectile clipping. Have had both used against me in Shadow Wars (I don't play arena PvP, hate it). DPS-wise and as far as ease-of-use I never took issue with either of them.

In fact, I'd argue that the Bloodhound sucked before the nerf.

[ironcladtrash]

It's also still considered OP in PvP by some players.

Count me in this camp. I hate that gun. I am not even sure there is a way to balance that gun so it is fair. The Particle Repeater and Cyclone are very good and balanced charged sniper rifles. The Surge Bolter is an OP POS that shouldn't exist.

[cmpowell]

@ Deunan,

The "PvP complaints" of the SMG centered around the fact that you could lock-on, run behind a hill, and then shoot and kill someone from behind the hill because the projectiles clipped through everything.

I said this in the very first sentence of the quote you posted.

this compliant was for the gangbuster which is the detonator not the smg and a video was used to show the ability

[Cavadus]

this compliant was for the gangbuster which is the detonator not the smg and a video was used to show the ability

Yeah, I'm aware of that. I've already said multiple times that the Bloodhound was sub-par before the nerf.

I'm not exactly what sure people think they're trying to tell me.

[ironcladtrash]

Yeah, I'm aware of that. I've already said multiple times that the Bloodhound was sub-par before the nerf.

I'm not exactly what sure people think they're trying to tell me.

Your original post made it look like you were talking about the bloodhound shooting through objects and not the detonator.

[Cavadus]

Your original post made it look like you were talking about the bloodhound shooting through objects and not the detonator.

Ah, gotchya. I should go edit that to make it more clear.

Thanks.