Silicon Valley actual size.

[Atticus Batman]

Well I'll be glad to explore a new area but it feels like a very dirty trick to not include the map expansion in the open world. I can't see how any player would have expected it to be "isolated" like this.

*EDIT: no dang pun intended!!

I expected it. A few months back they tryed doing the same thing with San Fansisco but had trouble with it, so it doesn't surprise me that they tried it on a smaller area this time. IF it works for them, be prepared for them to retry it on San Fran.

[kgersen]

Well I'm glad we're finally getting it, but I have to say:

Maaaan, it sure looks tiny...puny, even...

[Atticus Batman]

You pay for mine, and I'll use it. lolz Otherwise you going to have to accept the fact PS3 and xbox 360 will be here for awhile. Also. FF14 has all those features you mentioned, and it plays on PS3 just fine.

I agree. Not everyone has the money, or just isn't ready, to shill out money for a new console. Or get a computer that, we all know, needs new software and hardware updates a couple times a year to keep being able to play the games that come out for them.

[Belle Starr]

I wish there was a way to get there on my own, but I'm desperate to find any new area in Defiance to explore, no matter how small

[Skerrick]

Very dissapointing, I was also unimpressed after watching the twitch stream. Players will just burn through the new content then back to the grind.

Consoles definitely limit the PC version, would be nice to have a PC dedicated version. I have switched to Firefall and after playing for a while the limitations of Defiance become painfully obvious. Firefall is PC only and is very similar to Defiance. It has all those things that players have been asking for (market, pets, motorbikes, upto 20 in a group) and looks beautiful.

After seeing SV I think I will be spending the majority of my play time in Firefall.

[Cavadus]

Or get a computer that, we all know, needs new software and hardware updates a couple times a year to keep being able to play the games that come out for them.

Umm, a couple times of year

A gaming PC usually only requires an update or two every other year, if even that. I have an older gaming PC that I built in early 2010. In the entire time it was my primary gaming rig the only upgrade it ever required was a sixty dollar graphics card about a year ago and some additional RAM I did about two years ago.

It's still an absolute champ and runs everything with great graphical quality.

I did, however, recently build a brand new one as the old PC's CPU socket type and graphics interface was quite antiquated but, nonetheless, that sixty dollar GPU update will probably keep it going for another two years.

And software updates? Not sure what you mean there. OS and driver updates are free and take minutes, if even that.

There's only been two real elements advancing in PCs and that's GPUs and additional cores in CPUs. CPU speeds really haven't progressed that much in the past few years as we're approaching a physical scaling limit.

[JadedSinn]

now now ladys gents and others. we dont need to start calling all us PC users the master race of gameing (( even though if it wasent for computers there would of never been any video games to start with )) anyway. back on topic

the map is small yes. the map is an insdense like a coop map or a pvp map. but its alot biger then them.

the map is semi isalated. via chat. :: i beleave u can still reseave whispers. friend requests. and clan chats and private chats like one the main land. i cant test clan chat becuse my in game toon on well cant get into a clan on the PST long story. wont get into that bug :: anyway. over all its new. its filled with stuff. and if implmented right on the 5th should be well worth the flood of people that are going to be geting into it. and as a teaser. im going to leave a pic behind of trion worlds headqorters in SV with an ark though it. enjoy

Spoiler:

[Prin]

now now ladys gents and others. we dont need to start calling all us PC users the master race of gameing (( even though if it wasent for computers there would of never been any video games to start with )) anyway. back on topic

the map is small yes. the map is an insdense like a coop map or a pvp map. but its alot biger then them.

the map is semi isalated. via chat. :: i beleave u can still reseave whispers. friend requests. and clan chats and private chats like one the main land. i cant test clan chat becuse my in game toon on well cant get into a clan on the PST long story. wont get into that bug :: anyway. over all its new. its filled with stuff. and if implmented right on the 5th should be well worth the flood of people that are going to be geting into it. and as a teaser. im going to leave a pic behind of trion worlds headqorters in SV with an ark though it. enjoy

It just seems a really lazy way to do it.

[QipQip]

I agree. Not everyone has the money, or just isn't ready, to shill out money for a new console. Or get a computer that, we all know, needs new software and hardware updates a couple times a year to keep being able to play the games that come out for them.

This is true, some people cant or wont upgrade. The fact remains that Trion needs to move forward for the game to survive.Out of curiosity I looked up the Xbox360 release date. It was in 2005.Is anyone still using a phone from 2005?

[Bonehead]

It just seems a really lazy way to do it.

I think the guys working their ***** off to bring it live would disagree.