Silicon Valley actual size.

[Liquidacid]

There are plenty of cross platform games that performed poorly on the consoles. Just about every open world cross platform game released by Bethesda had performance issues with the PS3 that took them many months to correct and Bethesda is a much larger studio with significantly greater resources than Trion.

well to be fair, even for the PC, pretty much every game (especially open world ones) Bethesda has released has come with performance issues as well as massive amounts of other problems which took them months to years to correct, if even at all... lol

[Cavadus]

Technically everything in the game is an instance except for one phase for each map on each server. It's not a map expansion, it's a land expansion. There's nothing lazy about the implementation. Plenty of MMO's have had land expansions that are cutoff from the core game map. There are MMO's that divide the world into separate zones with isolated maps as well.

I'm aware of how the sharding in the game works. Trick did a ride-along with the 47th last year and he let it spill that each Paradise shard can only hold 200 to 250 players.

As far as the division of land, I don't like it any MMO. Unless there's a particularly good reason, like the game takes place on Earth but has playable areas on the moon or Mars or whatever, I really dislike having the land split up in this fashion.

Creating an independent instance for SV was simply the easiest method of integrating new land. I'm not surprised by it. Most of the game's content and items are re-purposed in the same fashion. Very little of what's been added to the game is actually something new.

I prefer one seamless world. A good example of this would be Fallen Earth's sectors one, two, and three. That is what I enjoy the most. If only a developer could make a game world like that but with Defiance's gameplay... t'would be perfect. I'd play that game forever.

[JadedSinn]

I'm aware of how the sharding in the game works. Trick did a ride-along with the 47th last year and he let it spill that each Paradise shard can only hold 200 to 250 players.

As far as the division of land, I don't like it any MMO. Unless there's a particularly good reason, like the game takes place on Earth but has playable areas on the moon or Mars or whatever, I really dislike having the land split up in this fashion.

Creating an independent instance for SV was the simply the easiest, and laziest, method of integrating new land. It's no surprise that this was the route they chose.

you must of realy hated oblivian. skyrim. fallout3. fallout new vagas. borderlands. borderlands 2. and pritty much any game with involved a loading screen then .

sure there not mmos. but still the consept is farly the same. all the devision is is a loading screen leading to a new area that is not realy connected to the rest.

[Deunan]

well to be fair, even for the PC, pretty much every game Bethesda has released has come with performance issues as well as massive amounts of other problems which took them months to years to correct, if even at all... lol

Bethesda open world games are always buggy as hell on release because there are literally thousands of algorithms that would have to be run in terms of the order in which a player did the content to catch all or even most of the bugs. Generally if you play the content in the most predictable way possible you experience the least amount of bugs. What I'm talking about are the stability issues for the PS3 that were pretty consistent with the release of every open world cross platform game from them.

It was so bad for Skyrim that they actually told the PS3 community that they were placing a moratorium on development and release of DLC for the platform until they could get a handle on the stability issues, so while Xbox 360 and PC players were enjoying the release of DLC after DLC, the PS3 players got sidelined and could only read about all the new content that the other 2 platforms were enjoying.

[Cavadus]

you must of realy hated oblivian. skyrim. fallout3. fallout new vagas. borderlands. borderlands 2. and pritty much any game with involved a loading screen then .

sure there not mmos. but still the consept is farly the same. all the devision is is a loading screen leading to a new area that is not realy connected to the rest.

Just because I have a preference one way or another doesn't mean I automatically hate all other methods.

What's your favorite drink?

And because that's your favorite drink I can assume you automatically hate all other drinks, right?

That's the logic you're employing here. As you can see, it doesn't make any sense. Life is not zero sum.

Anyways, definitely had enough internet stranger debate for the day.

[Atticus Batman]

Universally the console players say Defiance is the only game they have issues with.

If you look at any game forum, you'd see that is said about every game, people have issues with. People on the Mass effect 3 pforums said it of Me 3, people on Skyrim's said it of Skyrim, people on Gta V's said it of Gta V. Heck I saw people say it of the Destiny beta on that forum.

[JadedSinn]

What's your favorite drink?

Anyways, I'll let the rest of you hash this out and bow out of this thread.

favorate drink : anything but water. and booz

to the rest of it. ok !can do! bye ! . have fun ! we'll miss u ! come back agine some time ! tata ! toodels ! chow ! :: waves ::

back on topic now that i derailed it for a moment.

over all the size wont matter. theres planty of content down there to do and planty of things to enjoy. like the gient hills that u can shoot over at full speed boosting with a quade and jump off the other side of into the open air sailing 30ms befor falling back to the earth. and doing it all over agine or all the stuff i posted earlyer on a preveus post here

[Prin]

On one hand I'm annoyed that it's instanced. On the other I'm glad we're finally getting a new place to explore. At the end of the day, I guess I should experience it before I QQ about it. So we'll see; I hope Jaded is right about the content in SV.

[JadedSinn]

o.o i cant be wrong. iv been playing said content almost all morning with other PTS players. even got to the point where i desided to scale the building next to trions and managed to be the first to the top of it.

u have hmm ill list some of them

new emergancys : cant name them all but theres a small hand full of new ones. such as one called under new managment witch is a 99 onw . and one called protect the crystal or something like that. theres also alot of grid ones.

new incersion : its called invaision or something like that. its like an incersion but insted of doing every emergancy in the area . ur doing 3 majer points where ur pertecting what look like ark fall peaces from bad guys trying to destroy them. and insted of like 5 or 6 like at an ark fall this is a more open area with 3 or 4 of thes things u have to protect all at once. ((simaler to a siege)) but if u fail to protect them u have to fight the badys off from the inside of the area insted of them comeing from the outside. and there numbers or increased.

old/new arkfalls :: thay brought back the old kill the crystal ark falls. that where so rare on the live server that i wanted to beat my head into a wall waiting for them some times. and where missed by a few people hated by others.

new missions : thes didnt go live on the PTS but thy where said to be comeing. dont know when.

new map : the hole map is new. its something to look at exsplore ride around enjoy and have some fun with. theres not much else u cant do there.

new enamys : u get to fight cultests now heres a pic of a female one



thats about all i can think of at the moment. someone else thats been on PTS can add in more.

[Prin]

Thanks for the rundown, Jaded.