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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonehead View Post
    Every last little thing I do in this game, I do on my own time.
    I mean that Trick explained you should setup your team BEFORE entering WM. Not WHILE entering WM. Thus, if you go in without a team and PUG it, you should be prepared for fail.

    The scoring system negates that entirely and does not rely on killing WM. It values a high score loadout. That this can be a loadout that does less damage is beside the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 430005 View Post
    I mean that Trick explained you should setup your team BEFORE entering WM. Not WHILE entering WM. Thus, if you go in without a team and PUG it, you should be prepared for fail.
    It would be great if there were a way to do that and end up with a team in the same interior instance. Sadly there is no way to set up a team ahead of time that will be sure to end up together in the warmaster chamber. A raid boss with no raid mechanic.
    His way of doing it is well understood. It just doesn't work that well if you want to beat him.

    Edit;
    JadedSinn started this thread. http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...elaport-change

    With the new go to clan member teleport function, clans will have an easier time getting larger groups in the same instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 430005 View Post
    Thus, if you go in without a team and PUG it, you should be prepared for fail.
    Well yeah, we're so stupid. Why don't we create a full group of 24 before entering ? Oh, wait ... max group size is 4. There must be some relation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadEye68 View Post
    Why don't we create a full group of 24 before entering ?
    Because I believe Trick mentioned you can do WM perfectly fine with 8, AND if we did have a raid interface, he would have made the monkey a lot harder.

    Also he stated that he checks numbers on WM and would change it if they didn't add up. Well, WM hasnt been changed so everythin workin as intended

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    Quote Originally Posted by 430005 View Post
    Because I believe Trick mentioned you can do WM perfectly fine with 8, AND if we did have a raid interface, he would have made the monkey a lot harder.

    Also he stated that he checks numbers on WM and would change it if they didn't add up. Well, WM hasnt been changed so everythin workin as intended
    Perfectly fine with 8? I do suppose you're perfectly fine in a fight that hands up rewards regardless of how poorly you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirServed View Post
    I do suppose you're perfectly fine in a fight that hands up rewards regardless of how poorly you do.
    Well, this is a thread about scoring, not DPS or killing the WM. Doing "poorly" is in the eye of the beholder. You can score just fine without doing max DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 430005 View Post
    Well, this is a thread about scoring, not DPS or killing the WM. Doing "poorly" is in the eye of the beholder. You can score just fine without doing max DPS.
    And for a shooter, which is supposed to be about skill, that's a problem. I am not a shooter type of player, and I can see the problems with the current "design" of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 430005 View Post
    Well, this is a thread about scoring, not DPS or killing the WM. Doing "poorly" is in the eye of the beholder. You can score just fine without doing max DPS.
    I can also score pretty well WHILE doing max DPS. Wait, that doesn't make any sense. You can't shoot things in the face with a high DPS weapon and kill them before you break all of their armor plates, that would be cheating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirServed View Post
    I can also score pretty well WHILE doing max DPS. Wait, that doesn't make any sense.
    Correct, that doesn't make any sense. Scoring > doing DPS. Why would you use a DPS loadout that can score when you can use a score loadout for max keys and AF? You're not going to be rewarded extra by doing more DPS. You ARE going to be rewarded extra with a higher score.

    It's not that youre going to kill WM. Even if you did, theres no extra reward for doing so. If you're statement would be logical, everybody would be using a pure DPS build. Well, it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 430005 View Post
    Correct, that doesn't make any sense. Scoring > doing DPS. Why would you use a DPS loadout that can score when you can use a score loadout for max keys and AF? You're not going to be rewarded extra by doing more DPS. You ARE going to be rewarded extra with a higher score.
    Maybe this is why I like volge sieges the best. I often get top place with a big attack/defend score and very little assists. I think it's because whatever I point my gun at, I kill.

    To get a good score with the failmonkey though, I have to swap to bio. Raw damage doesn't count for much there. Nevermind, I think he's cute. Save the monkey!

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