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  1. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by hiban View Post
    This is the logic from Trion:
    No it isn't. While I'm not defending their decisions, players need to understand what is actually going on that drives these marketing and development decisions. Regardless of what many think, most of us are not and have never been the target demographic for selling Bit Store items.

    There does, in fact, exist a player demographic for this game, just as it does for every game with a micro transaction store that, for whatever reason, not only spends money on Bit Store items that we feel aren't even remotely worth the money, but spends it in amounts that vastly exceed what we would spend even if we did deem the items worth it.

    ~$40 gets you 8 Tier 4 lock boxes with very little chance of getting a Legendary item and even less chance that it will have all good or at least useful stats. ~$40 also can get you 1000 Arkforge which guarantees an upgrade of a good Blue to a potentially good Orange item along with the ability to upgrade it for the next 600 EGO levels. It was pretty much a no brainer for these players to switch their buying patterns which resulted in a drop in lock box sales and a net loss in bit store revenue because they were reaching their same objectives better and cheaper by buying Arkforge. (they would have had to have spent as much as four times or more the money on lock boxes to even approach the results they were getting with Arkforge and rarity upgrades).

    Encryption is being implemented to drive these players back to their old spending patterns and every development decision that impedes in game progression is based on influencing these players' spending decisions not ours. This is simply how many game developers think and act in today's gaming industry and especially with free-to-play business models. There are more and more panels at events like GDC that host speakers that discuss how to best monetize these players instead of the rest of us, and don't even try to hide the lack of basic human respect that they have for the player community in general and these players in particular as they refer to them with the extremely dehumanizing nomenclature as "whales".

    There's really not a lot you can do to influence their actions, and it's extremely unlikely that you'll do it by closing up your wallet, which had very limited value to them in the first place. The most powerful thing you can do is to vote with your feet so to speak and simply stop playing the game, but when it doesn't cost you anything more than your time, some bandwidth and some electricity things have to get pretty awful before a player is willing to do that so the thing you need to ask yourself is is it bad enough for you yet to do just that? (Some of us have already made that decision and simply post and read on the forums to see if the game changes direction enough to invest the time to play it again.) If it is and enough players make that decision, a company may change direction regarding development decisions but the window of opportunity to do so is finite before the shutdown of the game becomes inevitable.

    Free-to-play is Defiance's last chance. There is nothing for the game if they implode this market the way they did with the buy-to-play market, but that implosion will come if they continue to move in a direction where it's becoming painfully obvious that major development decisions are being entirely driven by the motivation to increase micro transaction revenues from "whales".

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    I shall call it, Key code gate.
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  3. #113
    I'm still new to this game, played for about 1 week with almost 1k EGO level.. May I ask what is the big fuss about the price change? The Ark events with Dark Matter Monolith, Hellbug Hellion, Hellbug Matron that seem to be on the map few minutes after the previous one ended, gives pretty good amount of Key codes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverWF View Post
    Before, all I've bought was t2 lockboxes - basically a way more items to choose from.
    I have 75 keys max (base 50 + 25 from Recruit pack), so 75/8~=9 boxes * 2 = 18 items from green to gold rarity
    If some items are good for me - I'll start upgrade it (I have a lot of arkforge keys, thanks to Season Pass). But most of the times it was trash to salvage. Add here drop and rewards too.
    And I never sell items - only salvage. So I have now 5 mil ark salvage, but only 800k scrips...

    Sometimes I've bought keys for resources and two times - for bits, thanks to genius placed this buttons so close...

    But after this changes I think I'll not buy keys for resources and sure not for bits. My EGO 3800 now, I still didn't have a weapon set of my dream (VBI AR Bio/Stalker, FRC Quick Repeater Bio/Assassin, VOT Needler Bio/Rollin Thunder) even of green quality, so I dunno what I'll do after update...
    You do know you cant take white, green, or blue to orange with this update as well right? You will have to wait to see if you get the perfect Purple (thats not encrypted when you pick it up) to take it to OJ in the attempt to get a good OJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestyle View Post
    I'm still new to this game, played for about 1 week with almost 1k EGO level.. May I ask what is the big fuss about the price change? The Ark events with Dark Matter Monolith, Hellbug Hellion, Hellbug Matron that seem to be on the map few minutes after the previous one ended, gives pretty good amount of Key codes..
    Not any more, they have "Balanced" rewards from those events now. This means they took away or nerfed them.
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  6. #116
    I've been wondering for a couple of weeks now about how many whales are supporting defiance. I know percentage wise they are a very small number, but I'd love to know how many people fit into the whale category. A dozen? A hundred?

  7. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Deunan View Post
    ~$40 gets you 8 Tier 4 lock boxes with very little chance of getting a Legendary item and even less chance that it will have all good or at least useful stats. ~$40 also can get you 1000 Arkforge which guarantees an upgrade of a good Blue to a potentially good Orange item
    Yes, you are right.
    But I think the number of players who will gambling with lockboxes is way lesser than number of just arkforge buyers....

  8. #118
    ok...so hai guy
    i'm a new player just star playing a week ago, and in my opinion buying each key for 1k is seem like a sweet deal...and when the sever got offline in (today) August 6th 2014. i found this threat and it disturb me.

    What were the key use to be ?

  9. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by jackdaws_1999 View Post
    You do know you cant take white, green, or blue to orange with this update as well right? You will have to wait to see if you get the perfect Purple (thats not encrypted when you pick it up) to take it to OJ in the attempt to get a good OJ.
    Yes, I know - that's why I'm in bad mood now...

  10. #120
    meh I get I get so many keycodes with such little effort so I never even had a reason to buy them....If I did even at the new prices it doesn't matter because I have so much salvage coming in it's literally pouring out my ***

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    gold rarity
    there is no gold rarity in this game... you may be color blind...

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