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    It Definitely needs looking at and sorting as the reward to graft ratio is minute

    There really isn't much to play for now with the rewards being so little!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironcladtrash View Post
    I do feel bad for Scapes and Kiwi. There isn't much they can respond with either. Every game forum has at least a few people that complain just to complain. They probably thought before taking the job that's all we were.

    Now they have seen first hand all the stuff we are screaming about is legitimate broken issues that go unfixed and choices that are extremely anti player and anti consumer. That must be frustrating trying to be customer support to defend a company that makes this many bad decisions and refuses to acknowledge and fix actual problems.
    Yup. Kind of like the hotline of the company that clubs baby seals. No matter the response they will get crucified because the lead "trick"ed us again. I could have lived with the encryption thing the rng has always been garbage but the insane tax to buy keys now is bonkers.

    I had bits left in my acct. out of sheer curiosity I see the million dollar box for sale in the overpriced bit store. Think what the hell I will grab a couple. 4 blue guns, 2 junk shields, 2 purple vendor trash items. Had I spent a million scrip on that I would probably throw the controller thru the tv. I sold everything back to the vendor and got less than 5k scrip. I couldn't have even bought a single key code on my return, NOT EVEN 1 with your new idiotic conversion process now.

    Pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by taco man 67 View Post
    destiny and several interesting titles are right around the corner.

    this was your chance to win us back. not chase us away.

    you lowered the arkforge drop rate from t2 lockboxes and we protested. what makes you think we will put up with the key/arkforge massive reduction you just dumped on us with this patch? I was on the fence over what to do when you took away our forge from the t2s, but this is too much. I would say you have about a week or 2 to reverse the reduction change or I think a giant chunk of us are going to finally move on.

    i'd like a response of some kind from a dev please ty
    Taco i agree with what you said and second it. Today is the first time playing since the new patch and what a god-awful POS this is. ALL drop rates were nerfed, Arkforge, scrip, guns, grenades everything!! I ran a Grid roadside emergency at a TL10 and got 1 green gun out of all enemys, not even a grenade refill for the one I used. And vendors at Bloodbath had a green gun for a special that was already encrypted. Now I saw a lock box that they want 1,000,000 scrip for. They have made this game so you need to shell out real cash weekly just to advance and not just something like $5 its more like $50.When I logged in today I caught the tail end of a conversation between clanmates just as 2 were leaving the game, with more to follow. Trion acts as though we should be thankful to shell out our money just to play "Their" game rather than listen to us "the gamers" who actually play. So now I am going to be the person they didn't want. I am going to log in just to play what I can and consume bandwith without ever spending another dime in the Bit Store. Yes I have the ghost ed. of Destiny on preorder and plan on getting every dime out of that, but now I'm gonna be in Defiance just to take what I can and use every resource without it costing me anything. Trion wants to see the bottom line drop - they ain't seen anything yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    I'm disgusted yet hardly surprised.
    same here, I started a thread during the down time speculating how bad it was.....i was right, its actually worse than I thought.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scapes View Post
    Yes, one million scrip. Why? We wanted to create an additional path to these weapons and their synergies for dedicated players who didn't want to purchase the Corporate Espionage Lock Box via the Bit Store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteSnake View Post
    same here, I started a thread during the down time speculating how bad it was.....i was right, its actually worse than I thought.
    Worse is like the Universe, always expanding.
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    I am really surprised how many of my high EGO friends quit the game. The guy who relentlessly and successfully bugged me in my 2 month DLC5 self imposed exile to return has quit. His reason being "There is no longer any reason to play". I also know the second highest scorer in warmasters that I know has quit. And two or three other high EGO friends of mine that I run with are gone. The friggin founder of one of the biggest clans in the game and one of my best friends in there is gone.

    So to sum up: My best friends in the game are gone or going to be gone thanks to the changes Trion has made. I am gone too. Because there is no reason to play any more.

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    Ok so recently we have noticed a few changes

    T2 nerf forge
    More then usual lag / disconnect

    Now we have

    million scrip lockboxes
    100,000 salvage and 50,000 scrip for 10 keys

    Just insane . Unless it goes back to purely ark salvage to keys and get rid of this plus scrip . Raise the fire rate on the bloodhound back to where it was . Bring back the proper amount of forge ( pre patch % ) in t2 boxes . As well as the keys and forge from major arkfalls . Give us a option for the warmaster . And release the total ability to 're roll individual rolls , nano , and synergies like promised . I will not return

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    I cant believe its not butter

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    Well i paid 9.99 for this game, disc, I'm not leaving this game anyway, just started playing in June anyway and i enjoy this game alot. But atm i don't like 50k for 1 key and 100k for what 50 keys?

    A dev needs to change it back like it was, xp, score, keys whatever. Please dev answer us please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    I'm disgusted yet hardly surprised.
    That's pretty sad by itself isn't it?

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