Intentionally Killing Defiance.

[cuba 666]

The development teams that work on the other games are budgeted and staffed separately. They are not trying to kill the game, it is their livelihood. These kind of posts only serve to put off newer players browsing the forums.

If Defiance ever closes it does not mean that these people will start playing Archeage. They are two completely different styles and genres of games so that line of thinking is flawed.

What is your backpack inventory....?...I know mine is 3744..... For almost a year ...I spend serious money...again you suppose to have completely knowledge of the game and you have to be off you mind supporting this crap over and over.....I got to lose....you maybe are getting freebies by Trion but I guess that's me speculating,...!!!????

[DeadEye68]

What is your backpack inventory....?...I know mine is 3744..... For almost a year ...I spend serious money...again you suppose to have completely knowledge of the game and you have to be off you mind supporting this crap over and over.....I got to lose....you maybe are getting freebies by Trion but I guess that's me speculating,...!!!????

Ehm, what's exactly your logic here ?

You spent a lot of money, so you know more ?

[konstantinov]

What is your backpack inventory....?...I know mine is 3744..... For almost a year ...I spend serious money...again you suppose to have completely knowledge of the game and you have to be off you mind supporting this crap over and over.....I got to lose....you maybe are getting freebies by Trion but I guess that's me speculating,...!!!????

How many times do you have to mass breakdown if you're breaking down for salvage? I'm pretty certain you hard freeze every time you try.

[DeadEye68]

How many times do you have to mass breakdown if you're breaking down for salvage? I'm pretty certain you hard freeze every time you try.

Oh, you've got that problem on consoles too ?

PC game client closes down whenever you try to sell or breakdown more than 90-100 items at a time.

[cuba 666]

How many times do you have to mass breakdown if you're breaking down for salvage? I'm pretty certain you hard freeze every time you try.

Hell yeah everytime...I sell or salvage but I'm okay with that.....but now with all this changes I don't know why need my inventory....

[Nefarious]

If they wanted Defiance dead then they wouldn't go about fixing over powered weapons or other features in the game.

We would still have quick charge 1 shot kill anything-not named Volge Viscera-from any distance-100% accurate hip fire-Surge Bolters if they didn't care.

Cloak would of never gotten fixed if they didn't care.

They wouldn't even bother with Twitch streams if they didn't care.

They would of never brought lead cast members from the show for a personalized Q&A session live on Twitch and having them answer our questions (no matter how crazy some of those Qs might of been) if they didn't care.

They wouldn't of giving a **** about bringing Charlie back if they didn't care..

They wouldn't of giving a **** about going back and fixing Charlie to make him look like his old self after bringing him back in the first place if they didn't care.

All kinds of Dev's wouldn't chime in to explain why certain things were changed to be like this, or that, or whatever if they didn't care.

Dev's would of never chime in to give thoughts on the latest TV episode in any of those threads discussing them if they didn't care.

Kiwi wouldn't bother of getting a new gif image of a bird for every one of her posts if she didn't care.

Scapes would never nerd out with us or make sure the Hellbug plush is balanced on his shoulder during live streams if he didn't care.

Trick or Phantasie wouldn't bother of showing up to past community events held if they didn't care. Sidenote: the community events they have showed up in have started in the morning Est time. They are on the west cost so they woke up and got out of bed early to jump on to play and say hi.

So yeah, considering all this which is just some stuff off the top of my head that Ive noticed I think the Defiance Dev team have shown to care.

[DeadEye68]

Defiance will die anyway ... someday. All games do sooner or later. They obviously work on keeping the game afloat, maybe not the way we want them to, but then again ... we're not the ones making the game.

I see no underlying plan to hasten Defiance's demise at work on Trion's side. That being said, I'm not paranoid. May explain a bit.

[Smeejo]

I think what a lot of people need to remember is while yes the changes they made in 2.2 suck they are apart of a bigger plan. Phantasie has already stated on here that they are doing things WE have requested like better loot and more drops. The issue is if they just throw it in willy nillly the hole game becomes drastically imballanced. This way, yes it is annoying but in the long run it will get better.

Source: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=310

(not sure where original post is so Etaew's DD thread is easier to find for me lol)

[Carnak]

Season 2 of the show is coming close to an end, and with Trion putting all their lunch money into Archeage, why would they want to keep Defiance alive?

Trion are publishing Archeage (for western markets), not developing it. Yes some resources would be going into that. And that's perfectly sensible. From a business perspective Archeage probably represents Trion's best chance of making money.

That said few MMO developers actually close down games even when they're not making lots of money.

1) There's PR to consider. Closing a game smacks of failure.

2) Profit is profit. Even if a game is only making a tiny amount of money, provided that more than covers the cost of running it, why toss it away? Only makes sense for hugely profitable developers like NCSoft with multiple big earners.

I would bet heavily against Defiance closing down any time soon - especially if Archeage succeeds.

Neutering everything that was right with defiance is going to drive people away from the game. ..... Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love this game, but from launch to now, seems the focus has shifted drastically.

Alternate point of view.

Defiance bombed. That means not everything was right with the game at launch. It therefore makes perfect sense to try to change what was wrong.

Admittedly it's not quite that straightforward. The niche crowd who liked the original game (eg. you) may not like those changes and will protest. For Trion though it's a matter of risking the one bird in the hand versus the thousand in the bush.

Personally I think Trion made a few monumental mistakes which really dragged the game down. This free expansion looks mildly intriguing and may be a small step in the right direction. Enough for me to ferret around on the forums for more info. But it doesn't look like those changes go far enough for me to actually check out the new content.

At least I'm still enjoying the show.

[Kyosji]

I think what a lot of people need to remember is while yes the changes they made in 2.2 suck they are apart of a bigger plan. Phantasie has already stated on here that they are doing things WE have requested like better loot and more drops. The issue is if they just throw it in willy nillly the hole game becomes drastically imballanced. This way, yes it is annoying but in the long run it will get better.

Source: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=310

(not sure where original post is so Etaew's DD thread is easier to find for me lol)

Where is the 'more drops'? Since this patch, I am getting a tenth of what I usually do. I still have yet to have anything but white weapons (and VERY FEW) drop from actual mobs. Only time I see anything else that white drop are after an ark fall stage ends, or as a reward from an event, and those are usually just greens.