just a thing or two. tell me how YOU feel.

[DeadEye68]

Damn Bones, it feels so weird when you make sense. Could you please stop ?

[Bonehead]

Damn Bones, it feels so weird when you make sense. Could you please stop ?

Consider it done!

[MahChew]

In game I've resorted to just walk aimlessly about. Jumping/Driving of random cliffs into the sea.
It's depressing.

lol that's deep right there.

[Yun]

With all the cutbacks and lay-offs they had shortly after release I'll admit I'm impressed they've managed to tread water this long. I have fun in the game here and there, just not as much as I used to which is sad because I've never been a fan of shooters what so ever. I'm cut from the cloth of gamers that are into the action/adventure/rpg games so defiance was something of a pleasant surprise to me in a sea of Call of Duty, Halo, etc...

Still even optimists at some point have to wake up and face the reality, with such a small crew helming Defiance I doubt there is any chance of it ever becoming the power house it could have been or was meant to be.

[Crasharr]

In game I've resorted to just walk aimlessly about. Jumping/Driving of random cliffs into the sea.
It's depressing.

aww man ***... that just stings, you wanna do some other crazy shiat not involving suicide you know i'll always be there mate...

[drackiller]

The game should apear in the front page of the store as a "new" thing to catch the attention of the thousend of thousend persons that goes to the store everyday.
But no, we need to search for the game, it wont be very easy to catch potential new players that way and only people who knows the game will download it.

[Nefarious]

I don't get these 'Defiance is dying' threads. Its like they always pop up between episode missions. And then when the new missions appear everything is cool for awhile. Then ppl start saying its dying again until they get their next fix.

The only bummer that has happened is the rewards system which is still a work in progress. Its been said that the rate rewards are giving out had to be lessened so that more meaningful rewards could be granted.

And lets face it, if the old reward system was in place now with all these events taking place on the map I know I can speak for myself in saying I would be able to rake in an obscene amount of Ark Forge. There are points in time Ive seen 3 Ark Falls taking place or 2 on the map at the same time very often and all I would need to do is time it to be able reach the end for the Ark Bosses from these to get 25+ Ark Forge from them if the old system was still in place with the rate of these events.

And I to was hit by changes with Encryption, I had to let a lot of guns in my inventory go. A Blue QM Bonfire with all reload rolls, a Blue Assassin Surge Bolter with double crit rolls, all my mission reward guns Ive kept since the beginning, my VBI Fire Storm and Thunder Shock and many more. But the way I look at it is that it made the guns that I narrowed down to keep more meaningful imo. This selection of weapons I have Im going to have to make the most of it, Im going to have to build what I have up. Before adding every best version of a weapon to ones repertoire was crazy easy.

And Defiance's patches as of late added a lot of good as well. Port on clan member, cloak fix, new vendors, new land mass, new enemies, new story content, lots of cross over stuff. Doesn't seem dead to me.

And if people are saying that they are leaving Defiance for Destiny because of the recent changes affects the way they play then good luck with that, Destiny is not going to be handing out Epic rewards hand over fist like Defiance once was so I don't know what you think you are going to get different from that experience that you yearn to have in Defiance again. You aint going to get it from Destiny, you are going to have to put in time and hope luck of the draw just like in Defiance. Same system with gear with random loot drops from mobs and chests and store items that switch over based on time intervals.

[Carnak]

Free-to-play players aren't monumentally stupid. They are no less or more saavy than the rest of us and they also are much more prone to recognizing cash grabs than the buy-to-play crowd. They will see what is going on in the game and they will realize what it means as much as we do.

I don't think that's true.

Almost my definition, the free-to-play crowd is extremely diverse. The vast majority will never spend a dime on the game. Only a small proportion will ever spend any money and that will only be a little. Nearly all of the revenue will come from a miniscule number of players.

It probably true that many are as you describe but certainly not all, otherwise we wouldn't see so much craziness in f2p monetization schemes which basically rely on some players being a bit crazy.

[ConcreteSnake]

I feel like I played this game 4-8 hours a day everyday. I had fun chasing arkforge and leys for lockboxes. I was regularly spending $20 a week on average between arkforge or boosts for myself or the clan. I had a great time playing the game shooting things in the face....but now? Now I log on and attempt to do the daily contracts, but most of the time I look at the map, think about what my reward will be for doing said event....and then more often than not I log out and watch TV or play some other game. Even with the old rewards I wasn't able to maintain 3 items as I leveled up so fast on my low character, and I was remastering weapons to get that perfect mastery bonus on my main that I was running low on arkforge and would purchase some or some boosts. The game feels like candy crush or some other micro transaction game that I have to grind and grind and grind and grind....and even after all that my rewards are so small and meaningless that I think to myself "why am I even playing this game?" its killing my will to live.

[Odessa]

I'm right there with you, Crix. I couldn't explain my love for this game to people. Laggy, unstable with endless in game performance issues. Disappearing cars, disappearing enemies, disconnects, General Steve for all, and the knowledge that it's a gamble to get through a patch without having to reinstall and redownload everything at LEAST once. The DLC was nothing more than throwing on a pair of Groucho Marx glasses on a coop map and calling it different. Besides all that... I stuck it out, waiting for the better part. It wasn't about the chase. It was about meeting some of the best people and making friendships that blossomed. I went from a new game a week to JUST Defiance. Games sat on my counter for months, never opened. Downtime was spent waiting for the server to go back up. Money was spent... way too much for one game.

*puts on Tinfoil hat shaped like a Swan*

When the changes started happening I braced for the worst. DLC5 was a game changer and everyone was up in arms. Scapes and Kiwi jumped onto threads and kept the communication going. I admit it lulled me into a false sense of things being okay. That the game was finally getting the love it deserved and we were going to push towards stability to make this game the awesome Unicorn that it could be. Then they started to change and nerf the game to Hell. Veterans were not welcome, nor were they wanted. they paid their money and the upkeep made them 'high maintenance'. WM was an example of that. Failure was necessary and insults drove home any question of intentions. Every thing else was nothing about the chase. Nothing is desirable. Nothing is going to be kept up to level. There is NO balance. Just to toss this out there... I have a few weapons I love and that's it. I have a ton of weapons I keep and can no longer use. There is no chase for me. I spent keys on lockboxes when I maxed out and moved on. I've accidentally sold shields simply because I click the sell all option to get back to playing with friends. My *chase* was Arkforge to level weapons. Wolfounds? Pshhh. That's only for my Monkey runs, which ended with the last change. But then again... I'm not the target audience. I'm a Vet.

They took a gamble to push out Veterans so that new people would throw money at them to level up. The thing is... the instability and lack of ANY chase makes the game frustrating and undesirable to anyone with other games on their plate. Yes, you get what you pay for. I paid for mine and enjoyed the time I had with it. But I get it. I get the hint. Not wanted. Not needed. Only hurts the cause.

I realized it wasn't the game, but the people in it. The interaction. The conversations. Defiance is a broken game that has only been fixed in terms of financial gain. Customer Service is the Exit door. In the end it's not about the game. It's about the loss of friends who I care about. The loss of enjoyment from some silly weapon. The loss of any chase. Why am I still here? Perhaps it's because THIS is Defiance to me. Everyone here. The community is who built up the dream, built up the hype and built up the enjoyment. The sadness is from seeing these same people tossed aside. Businesses do not survive without a sense of customer satisfaction. I think whomever was over that area seems to have left the building.

And because this sorta kinda came to mind when seeking how to describe my love for Defiance:

There's a common answer invoking hand thrown exploding devices. There's only that much short sighted decisions you can take before getting disillusioned.

Yeppers... got a chuckle out of me.