List of gun models that are viable for PvP

[SilverWF]

Well, it is a fact and not just my opinion. The DPS and/or burst damage is simply lower on those two shotguns than on the other ones that are already mentioned.

But you have added VOT Blast Rifles! Someone really thinks they are better?

[IcecuebPAL]

The Slugger (pump action shotgun) is good. I don't know if people consider that a lame weapon though. I started using a bio one with assassin synergy as my main weapon.

Sluggers are also hard to get (at least for me). When I was farming 5k kills for specific weapons for those pursuits, I think I only got two or three sluggers.

[Shakk]

But you have added VOT Blast Rifles! Someone really thinks they are better?

The VOT Blast Rifle has its own mechanichs as it can be used in close/medium ranges and be hipfired wich is unique for Assault Rifles and thus getting on the list but still with the words "not highly recommended but it can be nice in some situations"

The VOT Mazu Blast Rifle was requested on to that list by Phenomenon and since I haven't ever played with that gun I trust his judgement. I have read alot of reasonable posts from him wich makes me believe in what he says.

There is a difference tho, the two shotguns you mentioned are nothing but worse models of 2 other shotguns that are already on the list.
There is nothing unique about those guns that actually makes them usable in other situations than close quarters. They are simply the exact same guns but with less damage and THAT is why they aren't getting added onto the list.

[Coyote Clive]

The Slugger (pump action shotgun) is good. I don't know if people consider that a lame weapon though. I started using a bio one with assassin synergy as my main weapon.

Sluggers are also hard to get (at least for me). When I was farming 5k kills for specific weapons for those pursuits, I think I only got two or three sluggers.

Pretty sure there's something wrong with the sluggers right now. And by that I mean they are very deadly at short and medium range. Any hit above the waist is a crit. I am a decent PVPer and I am getting one shotted by them way too often at too far a range. Might try one tonight. I have a native crit assassin slugger. Tried one in PVE and it is fantastically easy to crit humanoid targets.

Funny thing is i remember when sluggers were the joke of the game

[Shakk]

Pretty sure there's something wrong with the sluggers right now. And by that I mean they are very deadly at short and medium range. Any hit above the waist is a crit. I am a decent PVPer and I am getting one shotted by them way too often at too far a range. Might try one tonight. I have a native crit assassin slugger. Tried one in PVE and it is fantastically easy to crit humanoid targets.

Funny thing is i remember when sluggers were the joke of the game

I have tried a slugger that I found not too long ago with Rolling Thunder, 1.20 crit, 10% ego on crit kill and radiation. That thing is bugged for sure.

I get the vibe that trion has simply taken a shotgun pellet and increased the size of that pellet wich is why the crit hitbox is completely ****ed up. Any hit on the chest is a critical kill and my slugger critts for about 60k. I'm not using it unless i feel the enemyteam is nothing but sluggers

Who knows, I might even rage upgrade it to legendary someday

[SilverWF]

The VOT Blast Rifle has its own mechanichs as it can be used in close/medium ranges and be hipfired wich is unique for Assault Rifles and thus getting on the list but still with the words "not highly recommended but it can be nice in some situations"

The VOT Mazu Blast Rifle was requested on to that list by Phenomenon and since I haven't ever played with that gun I trust his judgement. I have read alot of reasonable posts from him wich makes me believe in what he says.

There is a difference tho, the two shotguns you mentioned are nothing but worse models of 2 other shotguns that are already on the list.
There is nothing unique about those guns that actually makes them usable in other situations than close quarters. They are simply the exact same guns but with less damage and THAT is why they aren't getting added onto the list.

VOT Blast Rifle - weakest gun in the game. Own mechanics? Damage multiply by 3 - this one?
VOT Mazu Blast Rifle - just an assault version of VOT Pulser, but with lesser accuracy (especially while movement and jumping) and you must go in aim mode

[Shakk]

VOT Blast Rifle - weakest gun in the game. Own mechanics? Damage multiply by 3 - this one?
VOT Mazu Blast Rifle - just an assault version of VOT Pulser, but with lesser accuracy (especially while movement and jumping) and you must go in aim mode

Dude, you have to start readin what I'm typing. I'm not going to repeat myself

[SilverWF]

Dude, you have to start readin what I'm typing. I'm not going to repeat myself

Mate, you can add to your list everything you want - this is your list anyway
I'll only glad if some noob will pick some weapons from this list ^^

[OttawaREDBLACKS]

I have tried a slugger that I found not too long ago with Rolling Thunder, 1.20 crit, 10% ego on crit kill and radiation. That thing is bugged for sure.

I get the vibe that trion has simply taken a shotgun pellet and increased the size of that pellet wich is why the crit hitbox is completely ****ed up. Any hit on the chest is a critical kill and my slugger critts for about 60k. I'm not using it unless i feel the enemyteam is nothing but sluggers

Who knows, I might even rage upgrade it to legendary someday

Thank you for pointing this out and for revealing the obvious secret that they still haven't fixed since day 1. I have talked to people who use the slugger and they are too stupid to understand why it is overpowering and should be fixed.

[SilverWF]

Thank you for pointing this out and for revealing the obvious secret that they still haven't fixed since day 1. I have talked to people who use the slugger and they are too stupid to understand why it is overpowering and should be fixed.

Wow, really? Surge bolters not OP? Detonators not OP? Cankers not OP? Gangbusters not OP? Tachmag Pulsers not OP?
Pfff