How would you define weapon groups?

[WanWhiteWolf]

you not counting for light machine guns with a tripped up fire rate,or perks for that matter,you see with the burst fire mod my main gun here fires in hops,1 bullet,1 bullet,then 2 at one time,as with an auto fire weapon like the saw,there is no time between bursts,also it has canonneer

I am sorry to disappoint you but my blue rarity PULSER (at @ 4000 ego) has more damage per second than your gun. I imagine that most blue rarity pulsers at your level would do more damage than your machine gun. On top of that, you can run and shoot with a pulser with close to no bloom penalty, while your item requires aiming (e.g. not that mobile -> you are more vulnerable).

Yes, it's orange. It's a good weapon. But the class is not the best for max damage output. As reference I saw 2 or 3 Pulsers with 2000+ damage and 31 firerate & better crit multiplier. Yes, that's half of your damage but triple the firerate. Do the math.

[moof]

I am sorry to disappoint you but my blue rarity PULSER (at @ 4000 ego) has more damage per second than your gun. I imagine that most blue rarity pulsers at your level would do more damage than your machine gun. On top of that, you can run and shoot with a pulser with close to no bloom penalty, while your item requires aiming (e.g. not that mobile -> you are more vulnerable).

Yes, it's orange. It's a good weapon. But the class is not the best for max damage output. As reference I saw 2 or 3 Pulsers with 2000+ damage and 31 firerate & better crit multiplier. Yes, that's half of your damage but triple the firerate. Do the math.

yes but your pulsar doesnt get 20k crits or even 40k with a dmg spike,did i also mention that your pulsar is very short range?i designed mine for versatility,which includes a tier 5 sustained power barrel



infact you know what?i dont want to argue with you,semantics is my weak point,if your on pc na we can meet up and compare,that would make more sense

ingame ign is GunDownGrace

maybe you can help me build a secondary weapon,ive been lookiing for one

[Mosche]

I mostly differentiate between aoe-ish weapons and weapons that have high enough accuracy and crit rate to go for headshots.

[Snib]

yes but your pulsar doesnt get 20k crits or even 40k with a dmg spike,

A pulser has the same default crit mult as your gun. Also a SAW without crit rolls is definitely not the weapon you want for crit shooting, there are so many better choices. A SAW is for crouching in a corner, holding down the left mouse button, leaving your other hand free to do whatever.

But yeah, you guys should compare your "guns" elsewhere.

[moof]

A pulser has the same default crit mult as your gun. Also a SAW without crit rolls is definitely not the weapon you want for crit shooting, there are so many better choices. A SAW is for crouching in a corner, holding down the left mouse button, leaving your other hand free to do whatever.

But yeah, you guys should compare your "guns" elsewhere.

well im female,but if i understand your innuendo correctly,that makes sense as i dont have a "gun" to compare in the irl sense,why do you think i said i dont want to argue in the last bit of me post

[WanWhiteWolf]

Ah, that explains it. Only at 2.5k ego so far. Expert co-ops unlock at 5k+?

Yes. But T5 comes only with 2 synergies. T4 mods are often more powerful when used with the right synergy / weapon.

well im female,but if i understand your innuendo correctly,that makes sense as i dont have a "gun" to compare in the irl sense,why do you think i said i dont want to argue in the last bit of me post

Makes sense. Your weapon is awesome.

In my attempt not-to hijack the thread: It's hard to categorize the items since as we speak since there are only a handful being used. From what I've seen 70% of the available items are almost never used (yes, I check peoples inventory and perk builds).

[Snib]

well im female,but if i understand your innuendo correctly,that makes sense as i dont have a "gun" to compare in the irl sense,why do you think i said i dont want to argue in the last bit of me post

E-peen is genderless, that's the wonderful thing.

And the rest is just a question of play style. My current favorite PVE gun is the Frontier Battle Rifle with burst mod and reload + on-reload perks. Is it the best gun there is? Probably not, but it's the gun I'm currently having the most fun with. That's all that counts, isn't it?

[BlackTalons]

I am sorry to disappoint you but my blue rarity PULSER (at @ 4000 ego) has more damage per second than your gun. I imagine that most blue rarity pulsers at your level would do more damage than your machine gun. On top of that, you can run and shoot with a pulser with close to no bloom penalty, while your item requires aiming (e.g. not that mobile -> you are more vulnerable).

Yes, it's orange. It's a good weapon. But the class is not the best for max damage output. As reference I saw 2 or 3 Pulsers with 2000+ damage and 31 firerate & better crit multiplier. Yes, that's half of your damage but triple the firerate. Do the math.

And then people ask why nerfs keep droping on them unanounced. Bloom for pulsars FTW!

I like to clasify weapons in range, mobility and crit capability.

Long range (40+ m):

- BASR (crit ++, mobility --)
- SASR (crit ++, mobility --)
- SAW (crit +, mobility --)
- High velocity rocket launcher (crit -, mobility +)

Medium range (40-20 m):

- LMG (crit +, mobility --)
- SAW (crit +, mobility -)
- AR (crit +, mobility -)
- Immunizer (crit -, mobility +)
- Detonators (crit-, mobility ++)
- RL (crit -, mobility +)

Short range (10-20 m):

- BMG (crit -, mobility ++)
- PS 30 slugger (crit ++, mobility +)
- SMG (crit +, mobility +)
- VOT SMG (crit +, mobility ++)
- Pistol with fall-off mods (crit ++, mobility --)
- Infectors (crit -, mobility +)
- Full-auto detonators (crit-, mobility ++)
- Grenade shotguns (crit-, mobility ++)

Indoors range (0-10 m):

- Combat shotguns (crit -, mobility ++)
- Pump shotguns (crit -, mobility +)
- Sawed off (crit -, mobility +)
- Pistol (crit ++, mobility +)
- Blast rifle (crit -, mobility ++)
- Swords (crit -, mobility +)

[moof]

i tryed to film me doing a warmaster with my saw,but the lag was thw totally worst ive seen in my whole history here,im uploading the video of it now,including my crit out

[Snib]

including my crit out

nerf incoming in 3...2...