Weapon Rarity Rolls

[Dixie Cougar]

Sorry Sin but this is really wrong. PVP gets blamed for a lot but that was not changed because of PVP. No PVP player complained about it. Both PVP and PVE did not want it changed.

It makes me mad still because I had a unicorn frag grenade. The stats that could be different on that were the det time, min damage and slight increase of max damage per ego level.

Truth is no one really knows why it got changed. Hence why the really odd decisions are "Because Grenades"

I do miss my zero timer frag nade. Wasn't OP because I couldn't throw one every 5 seconds but it sure did its job.

[ironcladtrash]

I do miss my zero timer frag nade. Wasn't OP because I couldn't throw one every 5 seconds but it sure did its job.

I loved my 0 det one. It had a min damage of over 2k when mostly all of them were around 500. I had to trade for it and gave up an arm and leg and I think I signed something in blood too.

[Logain]

Rashere, thanks for asking for the forumites input.

1.15 Melee DMG for shotguns is ok but weak compared to other possible rolls for shotguns. The reason being is that much more damage is required since DLC5 making this roll no longer useful. Used to be ok finishing off raiders but now it would take too many swings and hits melee-ing enemies with your shotgun.

15% DMG on next Grenade after a Kill is not a good roll to have on just about any weapon but in particular any weapon that you shoot from afar (i.e. RLs, Bolt action snipers, Semi-Auto Snipers)

25% of Clip Reloaded on Melee Kill can be found on all shotguns but makes no sense to have on a sawed off shotgun.

10% Bug Damage 3 Seconds After Shield Refresh is really weak compared to other possible rolls for infectors especially after DLC5 because it does not do enough damage.

1.10 Fire Rate for one shot and then reload weapons (RLs, Detonators) does not make sense. The same for Sawed Off Shotguns (if the can still get this roll).

On a side note this is the primary thing why the VBI Short Barrel does not make sense compared to other sawed offs. It has twice the fire rate as other sawed offs but only does half the damage. But firing twice means nothing. It would be nice to see the short barrel get a damage buff to make it comparable. But that is request for another day.

Now onto some Mastery Bonuses

Damage on Next Grenade After Full Reload feels too weak compared to other rolls after DLC5.

Fraction Mag Rolls (i.e. Mag 1.03, 1.06, 1.09, 1.12, 1.15) is awful for anything less than 9 bullets in a magazine. Imagine 9 x the legendary Mag roll of 1.15 nets you a 10 bullet magazine.

Crit % While Crouched makes sense for snipers but less sense for RLs, Detonators, ARs, SMGs, LMGs, etc.

While these two are out right awful.

10% Damage From Last Shot in Clip has to be the most hated mastery roll on any AR, SMG, LMG out there. In fact is probably the most hated roll on any weapon that has more than 9 bullets in a mag.

2% Ammo on Melee Kill has to be the most hated roll on a sawed off shotgun. I mean that is only 2 bullets if you have a 100 mag LMG!!!

These are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I am sure that there are others that I missed.

[Atticus Batman]

{SNIP}
25% of Clip Reloaded on Melee Kill can be found on all shotguns but makes no sense to have on a sawed off shotgun.
{SNAP}.

You hush! It works great combined with the brutal synergy (Thanks to a bug, I think). With that bonus and my fully modded brutal synergy, everytime I get a melee kill it fully reloads my sawed off. So if my shots don't kill the enemy, I can finish it with a melee and not have to fight with a 2.0 reload. The enemy dies by melee and my gun is reloaded automatically so I can shoot the next guy.

[Chump Norris]

I just made a thread about a XP roll I found undesirable...

I should have scrolled down a bit....thought this thread was long dead.

[Johnny Stranger]

just saw this too chump and hoped you found it lol ...

[Slaymane]

Melee rolls, especially for explosive weapons.

[Logain]

You hush! It works great combined with the brutal synergy (Thanks to a bug, I think). With that bonus and my fully modded brutal synergy, everytime I get a melee kill it fully reloads my sawed off. So if my shots don't kill the enemy, I can finish it with a melee and not have to fight with a 2.0 reload. The enemy dies by melee and my gun is reloaded automatically so I can shoot the next guy.

I stand corrected. Going to go investigate this with my brutal sawed off.

[FlutterShy]

The +3 or so rounds for pistol is useless ( the one which effects pistols and explosives ) as the pistol has a +12 at the same level and as it goes up you get llike +24rounds and theres another with +6 I belive. Just give the pistol the big one.

[Atticus Batman]

I stand corrected. Going to go investigate this with my brutal sawed off.

Go for it but now that I mentioned it in a Dev's thread, it may get changed.