Game Mechanics Update: Reloading and Perks

[Fuzzy]

Why isn't this on PTS first to flush out the details? This new nerf is going to make even more guns have useless stats with reload bonuses and quartermaster.

It says it'll come with Aftermath, so will come to the PTS before going live.
As I understand it, I could be wrong: Every weapon already has a minimum of a 1 second reload, it just isn't displayed on the card.
It's part of the two part animation (which was bugged for the Zagger, hence the change to it).
The animation itself takes 1second, and on top of that the actual reload. At least that's how it's working for shotguns.
From what I've gathered from that blog post, the only change will be: Weapons which previously skipped the reload animation with an exact reload of 0.0 now have that animation.
I could be wrong about that one, but that's how I understand it. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Current Zaggers won't get their rolls changed. No weapon stat change has been retroactive. Would surprise me if it was now. Current Zaggers still will have that low reload, but now will go through the reload animation as they're supposed to.

[ironcladtrash]

Current Zaggers won't get their rolls changed. No weapon stat change has been retroactive. Would surprise me if it was now. Current Zaggers still will have that low reload, but now will go through the reload animation as they're supposed to.

Shotgun Mag bonuses where changed for existing guns. I also have plenty of couriers that have different reload speeds under 1 and there is a significant difference between them. Now they will all be 1 and any of them with extra reload stats will be garbage, hence why they even changed the zagger.

[MJS]

As a new player, i like this fixes, it actually gives meaning to the balance of the game,
else people will just exploit all these little bugs in the game to make builts which normally would not be possible.

It's all about the balance.

If it is all about the balance why bother having anything to work toward? If every new player wants to start the game and be at the same level as every other person why bother playing at all? If your an Ego 250 and I'm an Ego 5400 you bet I should be able to run rings around you. And I should have the better shields, weapons and grenades. And if you want to get where i'm at you should look forward to putting a years worth of work into it just like I did. I'm sick of all you baby's complaining about how the game needs to be more balanced, and Trion is such a suckup to the new people they give you whatever you want. Screw it, have Trion start everyone at Ego 5900 and give everyone one of every OJ in the game with all T5 mods and every stat the exact same. And take your balance and stick it.

[Crack]

Who else remembers Trick saying in a live stream that they wouldn't fix the 0.0 reload zagger months ago.

This^

I spent a LOT of scrip, forge, and traded lots of great gear to get all my Zaggers. I did this KNOWING Trick said they wouldnt be touched/changed. For every Zagger in my inventory Id like to see in my claims: 3mil scrip, 1000 Arkforge, a T4 lockbox, and an Epic mod hoard.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

With our Aftermath update, we will be making modifications to the behaviors of some beloved-yet-broken features surrounding reloading weapons. Reloading contributes significantly to the rhythm of a gunfight and contributes the rest and fermatas that keep things interesting. However, there have been some long-standing inconsistencies in how reload works, and we’re going to even those out.

In Defiance, there has always been a functional minimum reload time. This one-second reload acts as an unbreakable barrier, like the speed of light, preventing players from getting lightning fast reloads. “But wait!”, you say, “what about the zero-reload Zagger!” And you would be right to ask! There’s a long-standing bug that allowed guns to be reloaded instantly if you modded it to be exactly a 0 second reload time. Anything else would properly respect the 1 second minimum reload time, though the UI could incorrectly display less than 1 second. This led to extremely overpowered weapons that others could never compete with. With the Aftermath update, we’re fixing both of those issues.

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Read the full article on the website.

so when are yall going to nerf the the op crime fighter to dust too ?

[Punisher Illinois Blue]

Who the hell still uses a zagger in pvp? noobs? After all the perks were nerfed if you get killed by a zagger in pvp you might not be cut for it, there are far more op guns like the slugger and charge snipers that will never be properly addressed, Instead they just keep messing with the zagger and a bunch of other legitimate weapons that had good rolls, and were useful in pve.

Since your attacking Charge Snipers as a whole I will have to defend them as a whole. They dont need nerfing... It takes more skill to use a charge sniper than a semiauto or boltaction, and that goes for any charge weapon in anygame other than defiance. Bolts and semis can fire there weapons when they want to fire there weapons, they can run and shoot as well. Half the time witch the charge sniper you wont be able to fire at targets in ideal conditions, if your chargeing and moving you cant run, and without cloak your much more visible than other players because you glow bright. Also Charge Weapons make more noise.

The benefit of charge weapons is its huge bloost in damage but with the price listed above. Some of those charge Weapons fire subsonic rounds or eat through ammo like a machine gun. As a whole they dont need a nerf.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

This^

I spent a LOT of scrip, forge, and traded lots of great gear to get all my Zaggers. I did this KNOWING Trick said they wouldnt be touched/changed. For every Zagger in my inventory Id like to see in my claims: 3mil scrip, 1000 Arkforge, a T4 lockbox, and an Epic mod hoard.

yep just another big failure

[unsealedyeti]

the big question is how many of these new players or old players spend actual bits on the game you would think that trion would look at that ive sat back and watched over the last year as all changes have been made due to pvp cry babys...if some one is useing perks or certian weapons to gain advantages then why is it so hard for the person complianing to do the same....just sayin....ive watched alot of veterns and other players leave due to the changes trion has made to the point to where the 360 na server is dead along with the chat system and the sale of weapons,shields and mods....all clans have suffered due to the changes of and or for pvp players....it needs to stop before yall ruin the game if you all ready havnt...and lastly i will say this im not an pvp player i jump in sometimes out of bordem and laugh as other players kill me or i kill them...so No im not one of those players who will get upset bout the nerf other than it will lead to thers nerfs as well.......WHEN AND WHERE DOES IT STOP..

[Punisher Illinois Blue]

so when are yall going to nerf the the op crime fighter to dust too ?

They better not, its the only shotgun I like.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

Who else remembers Trick saying in a live stream that they wouldn't fix the 0.0 reload zagger months ago? I wish all there fixes wouldn't be so extreme.

Can a dev confirm that 1 second will be the new minimum for all weapon classes? And can you undo the on reload bonuses or reduce the cool off time?

lies lies lies lies and more lies