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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFallenRise View Post
    I think he might mean installing the disc as well, I'm on xbox and we have to install the game and then patch it but it's only taking up 5.7GB so how is it possibly taking up 10gigs even on other platforms?
    Actually, there's a whole bunch of stuff that they don't need to install because it's cooked into the OS on the XBox. On top of that, I'm willing to bet a good chunk of the size disparity is from lower res textures. The 360 and the PS3 should, in theory, be using textures that are half or a quarter of the size of the PC textures. That's a whole lot of space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oveur View Post
    I thought, why stop with more insight into what’s happening with Defiance, inside my head and with the team. Actually, we should probably skip my head and focus on Defiance and the team.

    It’s the second day in the life of Defiance, you saw our focal points yesterday and to elaborate on what happens here. We try to be in a position to respond to change and react to feedback. That means we frequently re-prioritize and re-evaluate, we course-correct. Some of you might know this as being “agile”. I prefer “wtfisgoingonnowletsfixdatshiinao”. Sorry, stay away from my brain. Got it.

    The reason this is about being a little bit humble and little bit cautious, is that you might see us talk about very serious issues in a way which might make it look like we don’t take it seriously. This is not the case. We do believe that if you can’t make fun of yourself, take yourself too seriously and everything is doomed, you will have no joy or passion for what you do anymore. And that will get reflected in the experience you receive. We hope you understands.

    With that being said, you will now see our top four issues today, as opposed to yesterday. Some may be have addressed to a large extent, others have gone down in priority because of others have come up are more critical. That does not mean the issues from yesterday are off the list, they are still there, but I hope you get better insight into why we can – and do – move.
    • Game Server Crashes – Let’s be sure to not confuse these with us taking down the server to apply updates. This is totally different and started getting much worse, especially for XBOX in the last 24 hours. You will experience this as disconnects but just tonight, it has ended with full server crashes. Twice. No amount of whiskey, dances of tango or foxtrot can fully convey our (calm professinal) rage and frustration over this.

    • FKN LAAAAG – Icelandic technical term which usually translates quite well to most other languages for some reason. This started showing up yesterday when scaling up certain platforms well beyond anything we’ve had before and we ran into glass ceilings. We don’t like lag. We hate lag. So we respond to it fast. You should also note that lag manifests itself for many reasons, ranging from networking to game servers. So especially if you are on XBOX, grab whiskey and take a dance or two, the game server problem above is causing this as well.

    • Patching woes – If you are experiencing this it’s for very different reasons. It’s depending on platform and location which is why we’ve been working with our content distribution networks and service providers to address this, identify where it’s happening etc. There is a thread here you can contribute your information to which will help us. If you can’t patch, you can’t enter the game and play. That’s like bat**** level serious for us. We want you ingame just as much as we do. And it’s not just so we can stalk you while cloaked. Honest.

    • Client crashes – Like, 120hz. And others. We’re already deploying some of these out. We don’t like these crashes. The reason this steps into this list is that after these two days, we got enough information from you to identify and summarily fix certain crashes. You see, we often rely as much on your feedback as we do on our internal testing, because we like to listen to you (especially when you are in a good mood) and our internal testing never comes close to all of you hammering our code when you’re playing.
    Some other notable things which you should keep in mind:
    • Pre-order items and other keys – If you haven’t gotten your pre-order items or are having problems with your key not giving access. Make sure that where you bought it, you got all your codes. This can be the pre-order code (sometimes on your receipt), your game access code, third extras code and the code for launching nuclear missiles. In case it’s the last one, please contact your nearest police station as you might be in trouble. In case of the other ones, make sure you enter all your codes.

    • Link your Console Account – There were problems both with the Arkhunter website and the account linking but that should now be solved. Head over to account linking to claim your rewards! Like most items, such as pre-order, you claim them ingame afterwards in the store.

    • Try out Shadow Wars and PVP maps – This should not all be about what’s wrong or sadness. If you are one of the very very very many that are ingame and not experiencing the issues above, this message is for you; try it out and let us know. If you don’t like it or can’t, please, also let us know. Our interest in high velocity impacts to grin area and vicinity is considerable.
    That being said. I’m watching as we speak a large number of our operations team around the XBOX servers which just crashed again. That is no small feat, the XBOX cluster has more cores than an army of gold farming bot runners would know what to do with. But they will persevere, as they always have and won’t stop till they’re up again. The servers, not them, you pervert.

    We’ve already pushed out a PC client patch to address crashes and a server update last night and we have another juicy server update for everyone in about 16 hours or so.

    Ave Arkhunter,

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    I would like to know the company's position regarding refunds.

    I don't consider myself a difficult customer, quite the opposite. I payed good money BEFORE the product was even ready, trusting the company. When the day came, Steam didn't even give me a pre-load. That's kinda fine, I guess, they don't have to, so I just waited. When I first tried to download the game, of course I failed. The patcher wouldn't work. But it was on those first chaotic hours of any MMO launch. I don't think that's an excuse, but over the years, it's what one has come to expect. So I kept waiting, for another whole new day. During that time, I was finally able to download the client. But I got the Patch error that wouldn't let me play. I wasn't happy but I kept waiting, while making a couple of posts on your official forums, and trying to get a ticket on your support site answered.

    Another day passed, and by then I had downloaded the client a good 6-7 times, always getting the same error. Mind you, I am not a new user, and I am not new to PC compatibility issues either, so I went through the whole troubleshooting extravaganza. Nothing worked. I played with opening ports, router security, torrenting the client, the whole deal. NOTHING worked. Another day went by and Trion didn't fix the problem, nor gave me any answer. Myu ticket is still marked as "unresolved".

    I love Trion and i absolutely love their work at Rift, their continued support and care for that game. But I don't think I want to play this game anymore. And I think that it is justified if I decided to ask for a refund.

    What would the company stance be towards this?

    Thanks.

    tl;dr: The game isn't working, thats obvious. Can we get refunds if we ask for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motrok View Post
    I would like to know the company's position regarding refunds.

    I don't consider myself a difficult customer, quite the opposite. I payed good money BEFORE the product was even ready, trusting the company. When the day came, Steam didn't even give me a pre-load. That's kinda fine, I guess, they don't have to, so I just waited. When I first tried to download the game, of course I failed. The patcher wouldn't work. But it was on those first chaotic hours of any MMO launch. I don't think that's an excuse, but over the years, it's what one has come to expect. So I kept waiting, for another whole new day. During that time, I was finally able to download the client. But I got the Patch error that wouldn't let me play. I wasn't happy but I kept waiting, while making a couple of posts on your official forums, and trying to get a ticket on your support site answered.

    Another day passed, and by then I had downloaded the client a good 6-7 times, always getting the same error. Mind you, I am not a new user, and I am not new to PC compatibility issues either, so I went through the whole troubleshooting extravaganza. Nothing worked. I played with opening ports, router security, torrenting the client, the whole deal. NOTHING worked. Another day went by and Trion didn't fix the problem, nor gave me any answer. Myu ticket is still marked as "unresolved".

    I love Trion and i absolutely love their work at Rift, their continued support and care for that game. But I don't think I want to play this game anymore. And I think that it is justified if I decided to ask for a refund.

    What would the company stance be towards this?

    Thanks.

    tl;dr: The game isn't working, thats obvious. Can we get refunds if we ask for them?
    You can't get a refund from anyone on the forums. Try Trion CS. Maybe they will, maybe they wont.
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    Thanks for the frank update and thanks for reminding everyone to have some humor about a game that is for entertainment, not some life threatening outage of heat and power during a hurricane.

    I am happy with what you could share and happy with it's delivery. Please continue with both the updates (when you can) and the style.

    Please keep up the hard work and don't let the naysayers ruffle your demeanor, I know from personal experience having the server farm not do what you tell it to is extremely frustrating already.

    Good luck in squashing the bugs, in game and in the server room.

    Quote Originally Posted by Irontroll View Post
    Just his style of talking I feel to be disrespectful.
    So? I find your entire contribution in this thread to be a disrespectful, unneeded, condescending diatribe.

    There is no need to give you a list of the exact things the development team in working to fix right now unless you happen to be their boss at Trion.

    Frankly, you obviously know nothing about software, hardware, MMOs or business from where I sit.

    Get over yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDeath View Post
    You can't get a refund from anyone on the forums. Try Trion CS. Maybe they will, maybe they wont.
    I know that, I am not even sur ei DO want a refund, as I said, I love Trion and love what they did with Rift, so I have huge hopes for this title as well. After I finish downloading the client for the 9324782938478932th time, I'll see what happens.

    I am just interested in knowing how would they handle a refund request, and a Community Manager may have that answer.

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    Question on Major Arkfalls, are we not supposed to be receiving loot at the conclusion of these battles?

    I could have sworn that there was a post a while back saying that while there would be no loot drops in beta, they would be in the live release.

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    thanks for these honest and direct status updates. It's nice to not receive canned " we are aware of the issue and resolving it" messages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oveur View Post

    The reason this is about being a little bit humble and little bit cautious, is that you might see us talk about very serious issues in a way which might make it look like we don’t take it seriously. This is not the case. We do believe that if you can’t make fun of yourself, take yourself too seriously and everything is doomed, you will have no joy or passion for what you do anymore. And that will get reflected in the experience you receive. We hope you understands....


    Ave Arkhunter,

    Oveur
    Thank you for letting us know what is going on with the problems and updates. I thought your post was well written (just ignore irontroll). The only think I might add is it would be awesome if there would be something pop up within the game (like a box that can't be missed) a few minutes before a server reboot. I always miss the messages in the little chat area.

    Thanks,

    Matthew

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irontroll View Post
    Just his style of talking I feel to be disrespectful. It's more an issue of whats appropriate to the situation. When you have a lot of really pissed off customers, making jokes with them about how things just keep breaking is not really appropriate. A simple apology would come across as far more sincere.
    I disagree 100%. The thing I hate most is "We are aware of the issue with X and are working to resolve this issue, you have our sincere apologies". It sounds so canned and copy/pasted. Having a someone post a status update like this, shows you it's genuine, and actually gives you some explanation of the issues.

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