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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsi View Post
    My game must be broken then. I've been using the same assault rifle for 300 some odd EGO ranks and I'm still leveling my assault rifle skill. Ditto for other weapons.
    I really wish there was some official info on this maybe there is a bug i know people where its not progressing for them

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    There is Ego, Weapon Level and Weapon type level. 3 types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortechs View Post
    Sounds like you wanted WoW with guns. This isn't it. Not every game has to be setup like WoW, and thus not every game is going to appeal to those who want that type of game. If gear grinding was in the game, I would uninstall, just like I did when GW2 added it.

    I play games to have fun, and for me grinding is the opposite of fun.
    So the innovation and "nuance" of this game is to remove progression?

    And yes, I enjoy getting something from my time. Repeating the same **** over and over is not fun (which is why the quests in this game are total crap - if you try and deny that then every argument you make from now on is void).

    I also spent $60 on this game and followed the development process - but I'm afraid there is nothing here that I would term fun. No reward for time expendature, no economy, crap instances, no interesting loot. I don't see a point in continuing to play.

    /thread I've made up my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    So the innovation and "nuance" of this game is to remove progression?

    And yes, I enjoy getting something from my time. Repeating the same **** over and over is not fun (which is why the quests in this game are total crap - if you try and deny that then every argument you make from now on is void).

    I also spent $60 on this game and followed the development process - but I'm afraid there is nothing here that I would term fun. No reward for time expendature, no economy, crap instances, no interesting loot. I don't see a point in continuing to play.

    /thread I've made up my mind.

    Ok sorry it wasnt for you ,maybe go try all the other games like this that may be more to your tastes....oh wait there isnt any.
    well theres always wow.

    Bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlander View Post
    I really wish there was some official info on this maybe there is a bug i know people where its not progressing for them
    The in-game help files are atrociously inadequate. And, absent a decent manual, which seems to be taboo in today's gaming world, it's hard to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlander View Post
    Ok sorry it wasnt for you ,maybe go try all the other games like this that may be more to your tastes....oh wait there isnt any.
    well theres always wow.

    Bye
    Sounds like you're in denial.. Defiant denial..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsi View Post
    My game must be broken then. I've been using the same assault rifle(max XP) for 300 some odd EGO ranks and I'm still leveling my assault rifle skill. Ditto for other weapons.
    I hope you're right. In testing, when the weapon maxed... you had to get a new weapon. They were going to add a way to reset the weapon's xp (so you could keep earning skill and so you could try for a different random bonus when you maxed it again), but it doesn't look like they got that system in.

    So maybe they fixed it so that you can get skill xp with a maxed weapon instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    So the innovation and "nuance" of this game is to remove progression?

    And yes, I enjoy getting something from my time. Repeating the same **** over and over is not fun (which is why the quests in this game are total crap - if you try and deny that then every argument you make from now on is void).

    I also spent $60 on this game and followed the development process - but I'm afraid there is nothing here that I would term fun. No reward for time expendature, no economy, crap instances, no interesting loot. I don't see a point in continuing to play.

    /thread I've made up my mind.
    The thing is that in a shooter, what you get out of your time for the most part is an increase to your own personal skill level. Now, there are some things in the game, like mods, that increase your weapon's power. I've managed to find quite a few blues lately that have been thrown on my AR, and I can promise you the difference is astounding. It's not a raw stat increase as much as it is how long I can lay on the trigger before the cone of fire extends past what I'm shooting at, and things of that nature.
    Oh and, the crit multipliers? Those multiply the multiplier. So it's a hell of a gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Sounds like you're in denial.. Defiant denial..
    Yes because I enjoy the game, I have a problem , well even if im crazy ill take it cause im happy and your not, I get it you dont.
    so whatever the situation may be, I win.

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    Sherlock, welcome to a wold where Defiance, which was never claimed to be an RPG, is not an RPG. If you expected RPG style vertical gear progression I wonder how you can claim youve "followed development". Its been known for quite some time that progression is mostly flat, with minor increases to stats from perks and mods. This is how shooters usually work.

    RPG = character progression / skill focus (stats, gear, etc all constantly getting better)
    Shooter = player progression / skill focus (you, the player, matter more than your characters stats. game relies on your own speed, aim, reflexes, etc to be capable of anything)

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