Question regarding silicon valley incursions

[brokenshield]

Yes, it does. They want it their way, you want it your way. They moved quicker than you did and finished the incursion. Don't like it? Go somewhere else on the map. That's the end of it.

You'll also have to look at it from their end: What is this chap doing? I just want to finish this, get it over and finish my pursuit.

So you prefer to sit around the shoot all the enemies? No problem, get a big clan together and defend all 3 crystals. Let those speed runners chew their own guts out trying to lure enemies to the crystal.

I've been on both end of the spectrum, when I have not reached the XP cap or max all weapon skills, I preferred to drag things out and shoot all the enemies. It made sense for me then because it was beneficial. After I've reached XP cap and max all weapon skills and was doing the SV pursuit, I just want to run it quickly. But I understand it when there are people there who prefer to shoot it out with the enemies, I just sit around and watch, or I move to the next crystal or site and do the one there.

Its not that difficult of a pursuit anyway and the incursions come up so often, I've since finished all of it.

If all they want to do is get the credit for the pursuit and move on, then I say again, drive, walk, run, crawl, bunny hop, it doesn't matter, past edge of the event. Once they see event title and "your score 0", they will get credit for having done the event. They are not even required to shoot one single enemy.

[Graywolfe]

Well i have done it like you Brokenshield, pick a crystal and keep it from falling. Sure the rest did but i kept one up and going, me and a few others that felt the same way. A few players where yelling and cussing at us because we were holding things up not letting the event end fast enough. We did just as the mission required, at least for one crystal, i have never been able to save all of them. They still got their credit, might of been another 10 minutes or so later coming than they wanted but they still got it and we got to do the mission the right way so both sides got what they were after if not as fast as they wanted.

[JadedSinn]

If all they want to do is get the credit for the pursuit and move on, then I say again, drive, walk, run, crawl, bunny hop, it doesn't matter, past edge of the event. Once they see event title and "your score 0", they will get credit for having done the event. They are not even required to shoot one single enemy.

its ok broken \, he will never get it from the stand point of someone that is enjoying them.

hes like every one else that is speed runing them. thy care about them selfs. and no one else. gaaa its sad watching self rightus people like that play games. thy demand everything to be there way. " i want it done now becuse im to lazy to do it how its ment to be done " or

" i want to compleat it as fast as i can becuse i dont care what others think. its all about me finishing and not caring about what others are doing "

or one of my top faves " look a noob not doing it my way even though im ego 500 and dont know how the game is played but every one demands it that way " HAY YOU f!@#ING NOOB LET THE CRYSTAL BE TAKEN YOUR DOING IT WRONG . YOU fING NOOB. " "

the sader part. the people that are wanting to do them right on this forum post are all over ego 5K have been playing this game eather from beta or in my case DLC 1 till now. and are considered the bad guys for wanting to get the real rewards and do them the right way. just becuse a large handfool of people want to speed run everything in AN MMORPGTPS thats about team work.

vary sad.

still wating on the dev to reply to my pm . man got to love when there on vacation takes them forever to get back to us lol

[JadedSinn]

Well i have done it like you Brokenshield, pick a crystal and keep it from falling. Sure the rest did but i kept one up and going, me and a few others that felt the same way. A few players where yelling and cussing at us because we were holding things up not letting the event end fast enough. We did just as the mission required, at least for one crystal, i have never been able to save all of them. They still got their credit, might of been another 10 minutes or so later coming than they wanted but they still got it and we got to do the mission the right way so both sides got what they were after if not as fast as they wanted.

Aman. now if only you can pass that understanding on to the rest of your clan mates gray lol its normaly some cronus guys or team evo guys speed runing thes things when im on. even cought a few STMITB shoot the warmaster guys doing it also. hell iv even seen my own clan mates do it :@ and i scolded them :P needless to say thy stoped runing them that way.

it only takes a hand full of us to make others see the right way to do them

now if only even when its pushed to the kill evangel or secreater side of the invasion. people would learn that you dont have to kill the evangels and pharamon sacreaters to win that side of the invasion also.

little seemingly unknown fact

you can kill the enamys. AND IT COMPLEATS WITHOUT EVER LAYING ANY DAMAGE ON THE EVANGELS -.-''

theres only about 250 of them there. maybe 350 i could never get a proper count. after all. the moment thes things go into phase 2 peoiple start ground pounding the evangels and sicreaters. so a proper kill count cant be gotten.

[brokenshield]

Well i have done it like you Brokenshield, pick a crystal and keep it from falling. Sure the rest did but i kept one up and going, me and a few others that felt the same way. A few players where yelling and cussing at us because we were holding things up not letting the event end fast enough. We did just as the mission required, at least for one crystal, i have never been able to save all of them. They still got their credit, might of been another 10 minutes or so later coming than they wanted but they still got it and we got to do the mission the right way so both sides got what they were after if not as fast as they wanted.

That's the part I'm not getting. If they are legitimately playing the game, just differently, why the rush? 10 minutes or so, with them being able to do whatever else they wish in the meantime, is hardly impacting anyones life.

its ok broken \, he will never get it from the stand point of someone that is enjoying them.

hes like every one else that is speed runing them. thy care about them selfs. and no one else. gaaa its sad watching self rightus people like that play games. thy demand everything to be there way. " i want it done now becuse im to lazy to do it how its ment to be done " or

" i want to compleat it as fast as i can becuse i dont care what others think. its all about me finishing and not caring about what others are doing "

or one of my top faves " look a noob not doing it my way even though im ego 500 and dont know how the game is played but every one demands it that way " HAY YOU f!@#ING NOOB LET THE CRYSTAL BE TAKEN YOUR DOING IT WRONG . YOU fING NOOB. " "

the sader part. the people that are wanting to do them right on this forum post are all over ego 5K have been playing this game eather from beta or in my case DLC 1 till now. and are considered the bad guys for wanting to get the real rewards and do them the right way. just becuse a large handfool of people want to speed run everything in AN MMORPGTPS thats about team work.

vary sad.

still wating on the dev to reply to my pm . man got to love when there on vacation takes them forever to get back to us lol

Though I have recently cracked the 5K mark, I can't say I've been around as long as you guys. However knowing it was an MMO where my actions could impact other players, I have tried to learn what causes others problems. I attempt, for the most part, to refrain from doing those things. There are somethings which have no clear answers, such as rolling up on a lower level character and bumping the TL up.

My goal while playing Defiance isn't to beat anyone, it is to be a productive part of the "group". There are enough sotte chapeaus IRL. Do my games need them too?

I am again speaking in general gameplay terms, not of anyone in particular.

[Graywolfe]

That's the part I'm not getting. If they are legitimately playing the game, just differently, why the rush? 10 minutes or so, with them being able to do whatever else they wish in the meantime, is hardly impacting anyones life.

I know but they see some of us as impairment to their game and it must be their game since they are in it.

Aman. now if only you can pass that understanding on to the rest of your clan mates gray lol its normaly some cronus guys or team evo guys speed runing thes things when im on. even cought a few STMITB shoot the warmaster guys doing it also. hell iv even seen my own clan mates do it :@ and i scolded them :P needless to say thy stoped runing them that way.

it only takes a hand full of us to make others see the right way to do them

now if only even when its pushed to the kill evangel or secreater side of the invasion. people would learn that you dont have to kill the evangels and pharamon sacreaters to win that side of the invasion also.

little seemingly unknown fact

you can kill the enamys. AND IT COMPLEATS WITHOUT EVER LAYING ANY DAMAGE ON THE EVANGELS -.-''

theres only about 250 of them there. maybe 350 i could never get a proper count. after all. the moment thes things go into phase 2 peoiple start ground pounding the evangels and sicreaters. so a proper kill count cant be gotten.

Well we are trying, I am still a low EGO so not to many pay attention to what i say but they have noticed that I am a team player and so respect is growing, maybe one day. Course we found out the other day that some of them had to reeducated about how to handle WM and when not to use BMGs. I would say most if not all the officers do it right, but there are definitely some real pains in the clan.

[JadedSinn]

I know but they see some of us as impairment to their game and it must be their game since they are in it.



Well we are trying, I am still a low EGO so not to many pay attention to what i say but they have noticed that I am a team player and so respect is growing, maybe one day. Course we found out the other day that some of them had to reeducated about how to handle WM and when not to use BMGs. I would say most if not all the officers do it right, but there are definitely some real pains in the clan.

thats why i left lol left cronus becuse it was to large nad left evo also becuse it was to large whent back to my small little core. so peacefull there.

even at low ego ur a good person spread the knolage of the crystal guarding . spread it like a virus amung the others in chronus hehe.

maybe if people start seeing the larger clans doing it thy will start to follow suite

[Graywolfe]

Well i will keep trying , I don't make it down there for alot of incursions yet but i will continue to try and save a crystal or two and hope a few people watch me do it .

[DSW]

uhm. for those who want to defend crystals to the end, guys, wait a week or two, i think, it will bring the pursuit completion for many current players so they wont pay attention to those invasions until mr.turnip adds another pack of pursuits for it.

[BC001]

the reward system is realy broken on the events. when thy go into phase 2 i feel a person shouldnt get anything from the event. as for the item. i find that the higher the score when its compleated right ( to do it right u have to protect all 3 locations and all3 crystals at all 3 locations )) you get better keys better arkforge. better xp better script and better salvage and a chance at a better weapon reward (( youll get a 7th weapon as the reward for the event but like the incersions up north youll also get other weapons that are not DLC related and if u have the DLC you get your 5 rep for beating it ))

but people dont seem to watn the good loot. no thy just want to speed run everything . but like i said. i droped a dev a pm. im wating on a reply. and hopefuly it will be good news.

i think what can fix this event. is.

1: if the crystals are taken insted of rewarding every one thy get nothing like a failed ark fall, u get a little scrip and xp and thats it.

2 : evangels get a health boost back to how thy where before we on PTS requested there health be droped because we thought that they where to strong. well now there too weak

if thy do thes minor changes. it will force thes speed runers to actualy do them right,

i also informed them of the " lazy " enamys that dont come into battle so that thy can be fixed so.

heres hopeing . for now . its a waiting game. wait and see if its fixed or wait and see if its never fixed.

hope it is fixed.

Something that would kind of combine your #1 and #2 suggestions would be to have the evangel hp high to start with but lower it using the time the crystals survived as the measure. It would encourage defending them as long as possible to cut down the time spent shooting at the evangel later.

It would even have a handy in-game reason for the behavior by saying that the defenses are powered by the amount of energy they were able to steal from the crystal before it drains off.