To the people who say, 'Oh it's just day 4, give them time to iron the bugs out'

[Elandriel]

Yea, because a car and a console MMOTPS are perfect comparable examples lol

No, of course not.
But your attitude towards money you spent should be the same. You see, to many of us 50 Eur is a lot of money to spend for a bad buy.
Is defiance a bad product? No, but many are not sure it's good either and many of us can't get their money back, but would like to see this game becoming better instead. Hence a criticism since it's the most important feature for improvement.

[Bornhald]

Trion really ought to have taken this into account and seen how well they could cope. Not expect customers who paid premium prioces thinking they would get service within that bracket to make allowances.

Still, I figure the game will recover. Not buying the doomsayers melodrama. But it is how Trion recovers that will make the difference. The OP had a point, some people appear to be at standstill and unable to play at all, or very little. Not a lot of fun.

Me, I entered a quest instance on I think day 2. And found my equiped weapons vanished. And with still no response to my ticket compounding a wariness to return to that mission with my main character, my fun is at a bit of a standstill too.

Exactly, the recovery is the most important part. Just look at SWTOR, people were disappointed with that at launch, then there was the Ilum fiasco, and all that would have been fine if Bioware had handled it properly, it took them 12 months to recover from launch, and the game still has quite a few "quality of life" issues people have wanted fixed since launch.

[Dradiin]

OP consider yourself lucky, i can't even DL the client.

I have tried over 12 times to DL this game, but because there is no working resume function i have to restart the entire DL. This is preposterous and should have been remedied after the beta and before the release.

[Sectioned]

I played Rift and have to say that customer support from Trion and bug fixing was second to none. I really cant understand the wall of silence that is going on from them regarding Defiance. I have sat trying to finish a couple of the quests without success and these are major storyline quests! I have fallen through textures, not to mention what other posters have experienced. It really isn't good enough Trion.

The whole thing smacks of trying to hit the TV series deadline or some other internal politics because they have proved they know how to deal with their customers and software issues with their other games. Perhaps they have over stretched themselves and don't have the resources? Whatever it is someone needs to come out and tell us something before Defiance nose dives even before the TV series starts.

[cfStatic]

If you think thats something, WoW had servers completely down for hours some nearly a day at launch. Copying the in game content of something doesnt mean you will have the same exact server lag issues and crashes, or lack there of. Also everyone is on one server which means the mass influx of players at launch and possible problems from diverse scenarios and comp set ups is going to take more than a day or two to get "ironed" out.

Did the game release earlier than they said it would? Cause if not it hasnt even been 72 hours(3 days) and everyones saying day 4 o_o

For the most part i enjoy the game as ive been looking for a mmo shooter type since way back in the days of Tabula Rasa if anyone remembers that.

The game was live sometime just prior to ~6:00PM central daylight(in the US) on April 1. So yeah, we're coming up on 4 days here in about 8 hours or so.

[Hiero Glyph]

Yea, because a car and a console MMOTPS are perfect comparable examples lol

You do realize that whenever someone uses another MMO comparison they are griefed by saying that Defiance is not like [insert other MMO here]. Regardless of your opinion, the launch was certainly not a model of success for any product.

[Yitani]

I have alot of doubt about you that you played 10 years in mmo because I beta tested from meridian59 to all mmo currently in alpha/beta/gold release and defiance might have issues but nothing like WoW/FF14/DCUO/STO/CO had.I can name even worse games if you want but it looks like you are very experience but surely not in mmorpg sorry bud.

And yes patching bugs takes time and trion does it faster than anyone go look at rift they do hotfixes pretty quickly well even more than SoE and Blizzard

[Jardian]

The recent cyber attacks against a major spam reporter that are causing slow down across the whole net arent helping matters either. Seen the report just this morning. Started Early tuesday.

[Walshie]

Why is there a norm with allowing an mmo game to fail there launch, why do we accept this and let it slide. I haven't seen a change in online game launches for a while, it seems to be getting worse, the latest fiasco would be simcity, horrible.

[Ichidakiller]

I love post like these people who complain about the game and try to sound like they know what they are talking about. They always have a tendency to post thing like I have been playing these games for so and so years blah blah blah.

Ok let's look at it. At launch we had crippling lag and system crashes. They applied a couple of hotfixes. Those hotfixes caused the issues we see today. Because the issues I see on day 3 were not present at launch and only appeared after the hotfixes.

Trion is working hard. I bet they are all running on minimal sleep working there ***** off to fix these issues. That's all you can really expect from a game company.

At least they are trying to fix the issue and not giving you the famous "we are looking into it" like wow. Anyone remember vanish on rogues in wow not working for what almost a year after I think it was the 1.3 patch the weapon normalization where they broke vanish. Then told everyone we are looking into it over a year later the we are looking into it became "sorry working as intended"

I've been through several mmo launches not one went smooth. There is always a process of launch, patch bugs, patch what the last patch broke. Takes about a week or two for the servers kinks to be ironed out. Every single mmo has been this way. Wow was lag filled for months where you could not loot quest items. You know what we did reported it and moved on.
DCUO launch was a mess. Lag, crashes, rollbacks and nonworking instances go into an instance loads forever and bam your at start screen.
Dungeons and dragons online non of the instances worked. And crippling lag.
Age of Conan again lag broken quests and people abusing glitch and instant killing in pvp for weeks.

There is always a breaking in process in mmos, at least they are working there ***** off to fix these and not just sitting back. There are a few dev posts to keep you informed. Yes they are not going to update you all day long as they are busy fixing. But at least there is some communication from Trion. And not one of those "we are looking into it" wow crap responses.

It took about a week for any of the above games to be playable. If these issues are happening a week from launch go complain on the forums then.

There have been a few moment of being able to play Defiance and when it is the game is amazing. If its not you wouldn't be here whining about not being able to play it. Give them the time they need to fix these issues.