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    the chat system is the only thing that detracts from the MMO feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge View Post
    I play the game on my PS3, so I don't compare it to other PC MMOs, but you have to keep in mind that this game is not meant to be the same as WoW, which is why they're not calling it an MMORPG. Look at games like Battlefield, where your progression is seen in your own increase in skill, as well as unlocking new guns and gadgets. Defiance is fusing an unlock system like Battlefield has with MMORPG elements (skill tree, unlocking abilities).

    When you take it out of the MMORPG tree and put it with the other big shooters (Battlefield, Planetside, Firefall) it tends to stand up quite a bit better, even in its current state. Is it the absolute best game that has ever come? Probably not. It is an MMO? Sure. And is it a good MMO? I'd say it has the potential to be.
    But even in BF, the classes MAKE a difference, here they have zero bearing at all. I agree this game DOES have alot of potential. Hoping it gets more depth added to it. Because if not, Im 3/5 chapters completed on the story mode, and if there is not "end game" content, This will be the SHORTEST MMO I've ever played lol. And to that effect, ALOT of people will walk away once they have nothing else to do.

    And lets face if, you can only do SO many side missions before a game gets old. I personaly want this game to last for years to come. Thats why im hoping for alot more "depth" added in soon.

    Also FIX the chat and the inspect feature! That thing RARELY worked even in the old build of the Beta. Ive gotten inspect to work ONCE in at least a hundred attempts, seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sludge View Post
    When you take it out of the MMORPG tree and put it with the other big shooters (Battlefield, Planetside, Firefall) it tends to stand up quite a bit better, even in its current state. Is it the absolute best game that has ever come? Probably not. It is an MMO? Sure. And is it a good MMO? I'd say it has the potential to be.
    Potential sure, but only if they give it half the care that RIFT got after six months in.
    This is why Firefall is refreshing. Their connection to the community is priceless.
    I've even had Mark Kern on the telephone.

    Something tells me though that Trion will pull development/support to throw at marketing to inevitably prop up the show.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcwjimbo View Post
    the chat system is the only thing that detracts from the MMO feel
    The minimal chat system is the only thing making this game worth while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraya View Post
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    The minimal chat system is the only thing making this game worth while.
    LOL ok, my iggy lists in other MMO's are long :-P and yeah not being aware of the tons of dribble that can occur in a chat is cool BUT received tons of thanx yesterday and sent them out during missions and it didnt seem to flow as easily as other games in thanking or responding to people. maybe with time, will seem to flow more as i get used to the chat system

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcwjimbo View Post
    LOL ok, my iggy lists in other MMO's are long :-P and yeah not being aware of the tons of dribble that can occur in a chat is cool BUT received tons of thanx yesterday and sent them out during missions and it didnt seem to flow as easily as other games in thanking or responding to people. maybe with time, will seem to flow more as i get used to the chat system
    Emotes seemed to be working - I forgot they were even in.
    Wondered why people were complaining but then it occured to me what they wanted was a full suite of a-typical emotes so they could do that weird role playing sh!t that people think is still cool.

    Anyways, communication in-game has been fine as far as PUGs are concerned because it's all self explanitory and if you MUST say something (forget the mic for a minute), you can chat and they will see it (if they aren't blind or not paying attention, which admittedly most of these players don't...I'm finding people in these types of half assed MMOs are terrible and have no sense of what's going on around them).

    I bet if everyone had access to a few friends and Skype or Teamspeak; they'd never talk about a chat box again - unless of course they are socialites who want to turn this game into RuneScape or Second Life.

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    Yeah i have to agree with some of the others that have noted the fact about this game. It is a FPS first and a MMO second. This differs from the MMORPG idea in that the MMO is first and the RPG is second for them. This is a FPS with a MMO aspect to it. It is what they had said it would be. It might not be for everyone tho.

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    First let me say that (and I'm not saying you, specifically) a lot of people tend to associate MMO with MMORPG. Defiance is not an MMORPG. It's an MMOTPS. So things that would be in a traditional mmorpg(raids, end game, etc) might not be in Defiance. End game is there though, lots of pursuits, co-op maps, faction grinding etc etc. Just no raids, but you could say that Arkfalls are just like really simple open world ones.

    I made a thread similar to this one yesterday. The world really feels vacant without a good world chat going on in the background or without seeing other people for sometimes hours at a time unless I happen upon a vendor. Maybe I'm just ahead of a bunch of people(I hope not, I've been taking my time!) and it will fix itself later, at this point though I can only hope.

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    I'd rather play this than Fallen Earth. That game is bloody awful!

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    I think the chat lacks on console because not many people have keyboards for it. I myself do, and tried talking to a few ppl on 360 and got no response or an emote.

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    i think its more of a problem of what ppl EXPECTED vs what the game is. if you did any research into this game you would have known it was going to be like this. it has been clearly stated many times that you CAN group up to play the game or do it solo. the reason ppl are not grouping up is frankly the gaming community sucks these days. look around the forums, or any forums for that matter. look at the general chat in 90% of games out there. its all the same tools whining and name calling any more. im not at all surprised ppl would rather solo what they can vs dealing with some 'epeen' from some random tool.

    outside of arks and coops/pvp i personally solo what i can. there is enough questing with ppl who are on the same objectives as me to satisfy my need for grouping. the whole 'i want something new' claims by the community is again being replaced by 'but it has to be the same as (insert mmo)'.

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