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    Remove some of the AF, like half and then its fair... but I gotta say banning people because of poor beta testing is really not good business practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Derpenhowser View Post
    Remove some of the AF, like half and then its fair... but I gotta say banning people because of poor beta testing is really not good business practice.
    They are banning people for the choice those players made, no one held a gun to their head, the decision to act as they did was entirely theirs.
    Yes it hurts the numbers, but it promotes a more mature gaming environment showing Trion is no where near as greedy as some would make them out to be and care for the game and community alot more too.

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    I find some redemption in this. I remember one glitcher telling me "what are they going to do about it" as I posted to chat "doesn't anyone play the game as designed anymore." I bought it to play it not to cheat it.

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    Havent exploited it myself, nor been in a coop where people used that exploit. But i am puzzled by the possible bans. Someone posted they didnt really cut off corners, nor gone through 'walls', but just blurred through the entire map using explosive weapons to kill mobs. In other words, speedrunned it bigtime.

    If this is the case i'm not too sure if a ban would be justified. Blur and heavy explosive weapons were put in the game by Trion for players to use at will. So (ab)using them to speedrun through an extire map seems pretty legit to me.

    If people did glitch through (invisible) walls, or used weapons that were not put into the game by Trion, or used some other kind of 'hack' or exploit than a ban would seem in place.

    I guess the big question is with Trion: Did people used the tools we handed to them, although we never meant them to be used in such a way. Or were actions performed we CLEARLY disapproved in advance and people used them anyway.

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    Everyone knows exploiting is wrong and should not be condoned. The Bans are appropriate.

    Speed running was not the exploit skipping through walls and barriers was.

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    Ban the worst offenders, and penalize the next tier by removing AF or suspensions then call it a day. Those with banned accounts will either find another game to exploit or obtain another account and come back in to play with their friends.

    Funny how as soon as an announcement like this comes down you see all these "but I only" posts and "they would not cut their own cash flow" posts. Happens every time.

    Lesson learned: If you have to exploit, don't be blatant about it, but better not to do it at all.

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    I think the bans are unnecessary. In Destiny there are methods you can do to skip parts of the end game raids. I'm sure the game designers didn't expect players to find these so fast, but they eventually fix them. Trion isn't fixing these things. Instead they are supposedly banning people. Just because we the people can think outside the box doesn't mean we should be punished for it. We're just trying to make the game better by finding faults so the devs can fix them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet1337 View Post
    I think the bans are unnecessary. In Destiny there are methods you can do to skip parts of the end game raids. I'm sure the game designers didn't expect players to find these so fast, but they eventually fix them. Trion isn't fixing these things. Instead they are supposedly banning people. Just because we the people can think outside the box doesn't mean we should be punished for it. We're just trying to make the game better by finding faults so the devs can fix them.
    Finding and reporting is one thing. To continue using for own gain is exploiting.

    Is this really such a hard concept to grasp?
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    Exploiting is a bannable offence. You agreed to that when you clicked accept on that EULA no one reads. lol

    Either way Trion is well within their right to ban people for it if they want.

    I also doubt the bans are permanent, but who knows.

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    Some folks caught a ban (think it was one day) and/or had exploited money removed when you could exploit the Extra Life vendor for scrip the first year. So I'm not surprised about bans.

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