So much useless weapons after rarity bonus change

[r1p]

I agree that overall weapon drops should be better and I think it is great for the game overall, but I'm still glad I have my OJ Hellfire Blaster. If I'm reading the changes correctly the max mag roll for pistols is 2x in the new tables, so even with a t5 +20 mag mod you are limited to a mag size of 60. My HF has 3 mag rolls of 16, 20, & 24 which puts it at 80. This thing give me so much more flexibility because it's like being able to carry an SMG around with its own ammo pool and will now become that much more invaluable to me when the new weapon tables get implemented.

[Fuzzy]

heres the part im thinking i misread...correct me if im wrong but whats on defiancedata is the max possible rolls calculations so based on that not every orange roll is gonna be 1.20 fire rate, in fact it gonna be rare to see that. so which makes your arguement partially invalid

No, you understood that wrong. Every roll listed on DD in the new system will appear like this on weapons BUT you cannot get multiple rolls anymore.
So infectors can get a legendary stat of Firerate, which will always be 1.20. If FR doesn't get rolled as legendary roll, it could get rolled as the blue roll, which would be 1.15 etc.

[ArthriticNed]

What people need to understand is that thers 2 different types of dps, damage per second and damage per shot. By allowing for slightly larger varied rolls, damage per second is going to increase but damage per shot may not, and some weapons will suffer. Some weapons will benefit from this new system and some wont, simple as that.

[Logain]

What people need to understand is that thers 2 different types of dps, damage per second and damage per shot. By allowing for slightly larger varied rolls, damage per second is going to increase but damage per shot may not, and some weapons will suffer. Some weapons will benefit from this new system and some wont, simple as that.

Very true. Weapons that try to maximize the most damage per shot (i.e. Bolt Action Snipers or One Shot Shotguns) are probably going to be worse.

[Midnight]

What people need to understand is that thers 2 different types of dps, damage per second and damage per shot. By allowing for slightly larger varied rolls, damage per second is going to increase but damage per shot may not, and some weapons will suffer. Some weapons will benefit from this new system and some wont, simple as that.

There have been all kinds of DPS discussed here, i think the important ones are Critical/regular burst damage, which really only factors in how much damage you do in the first mag using damage and fire rate and critical/regular sustained which factors in reload as well to get a better picture of long term damage output on tougher enemies...i think the current double damage rolls will still be superior in terms of burst damage, but the new roll system will eventually out class the old system in sustained DPS across all guns