So,velocity...

[PTR47]

Velocity with manual Detonators almost feels like cheating. With 2x Velocity roll, if it can shoot at you, you can shoot back at it. Our differing views may be due to the fact that you play on a controller and I get a mouse (for more precise control on the fly) instead.

Could be. And ya, PTS is PC, and it looks like the dev team plays on PC, so what the consoles experience is possibly not the *exact* experience they intend. I really enjoy the angle game -- always have. There used to be a cannon game on Atari {?} where you'd cut away at bunkers and such. Always won by angles. Loved it. Possibly why I've taken a real liking to Dets. But I like to place my shots on a manual det strategically, and velocity really makes it less accurate... at least on console.

[Atticus Batman]

Could be. And ya, PTS is PC, and it looks like the dev team plays on PC, so what the consoles experience is possibly not the *exact* experience they intend. I really enjoy the angle game -- always have. There used to be a cannon game on Atari {?} where you'd cut away at bunkers and such. Always won by angles. Loved it. Possibly why I've taken a real liking to Dets. But I like to place my shots on a manual det strategically, and velocity really makes it less accurate... at least on console.

Something like ScorchedEarth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Earth_(video_game)

[SirServed]

Something like ScorchedEarth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Earth_(video_game)

I remember playing a similar game when I was younger, but it was on a console system as we didn't own a PC until the year 2000.

[PTR47]

Something like ScorchedEarth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Earth_(video_game)

Yes! Or quite possibly Artillery. I also really liked the boat bombing on Beach Head for the 64. Same thing, different angle.

[Ryker Vorton]

Ohhhhh scorched earth!!!! brings tears of nostalgy!!!!

I remember a game, older than personal computers and consoles, which was text based of course (graphics weren't invented yet) It was an indirect fire artillery simulator/trainer, you had to hit enemies in "X,Y" coordinates so you had to set your angle of fire, calculate azymuth, set the power of the charge according to the projectile weight and fire. After a couple of seconds of delay the system would tell you the coordinates of your impact. I used to play this game when i was a child on an IBM s/34

Ok, now i feel old....

[WhiteStrike]

I'm kinda worried about the new weapon roll system coming in, I'm thinking that most detonators are going to have a velocity roll of some kind on them when the duplicate bonuses cant roll patch lands, I mean how many different bonuses are available on dets? And its an orange only roll atm, what if that remains the case that it will only roll on orange? I hope I'm worried about nothing but idk

If this was implemented recoil rolls would be available and velocity would be desirable.Although that probably will never happen.

[stefb42]

If this was implemented recoil rolls would be available and velocity would be desirable.Although that probably will never happen.

This is happening, there will be no double rolls on guns soon so every tier roll will be different, my point is that there isn't a lot of available rolls on detonators, quite possibly as little as 6, which makes me wonder if this will cause more dets to roll velocity more often due to the new design.

Recoil rolls as we know them won't do what the pictures indicate, you would need to add more recoil, and even then the weapon would likely recoil after the shot was fired, I imagine it would take considerable reworking to make it work as per the illustrations in the OP

I personally don't like what velocity does to a det and would rather not see it as a roll, a 2x velocity mod would be better, that way if you like the velocity you can have it, if you don't like velocity you won't be stuck with it

[PTR47]

This is happening, there will be no double rolls on guns soon so every tier roll will be different, my point is that there isn't a lot of available rolls on detonators, quite possibly as little as 6, which makes me wonder if this will cause more dets to roll velocity more often due to the new design.

As long as the system rolls the highest teir bonus first, it should not affect the odds. If it were the other way around, it would. Assuming the odds of rolling one stat over another are equal (and Defiance Data has all the rolls listed), the odds would change from 25% to 35% in favour of rolling velocity for the T5 bonus.

[r1p]

Yesterday I got a Big Boomer as part of a trade that had the 2x velocity OJ roll and I have to say that I love it. First let me say I don't PVP and I get why it is totally useless to 99.999% of the community. For me it is a toy that I have fun with, I've nicknamed it my "Sniper Boomer" and I break it out when I'm waiting for a conflict or siege that I'm interested running or I'm on a wide open map that I need to kill enemies that are far away. I equate my affection for the weapon to be equal to liking a movie that has gotten terrible reviews but has somehow managed to create a cult-like following. It's current configuration with a +4 velocity mod and no mastery it shoots about 240 meters, but with a T5 +6 velocity and a 1.25 velocity and I think it will be 275 meters or more. I know it's a weapon with very little practical use, but in my case it's just fun. And yes I agree, they should remove the velocity roll from detonators.

[Mister Derpenhowser]

They just need to reduce the velocity rolls stats 2x is too much.. I've had one and it was fun and useful at major ss events but generally had no purpose, reduce it and change what sight mods do to something else and it'll be all good.


Edit: or even a new sight mod made just for velocity rolls which moves the crosshair??