So...clean launch?

[Pissed off]

My gun fires straight, sure you know how to use it? You obviously can't figure out a forum search option or lack the ability to read the Dev's posts that they are aware of XBOX issues and working on them. All of your complaints have already been addressed and laid out. You are not adding anything new to the conversation. This is not GoW. Combat is on par with this type of game (MMO) where the idea is to keep the player/player interactions simple for the maximum communication from client to server and back. If it get's too complicated your character risks being affected by packet loss and reducing your ability to respond timely.

It is obvious your experience with MMO's are limited as a 12 years old girl sounding shrieking demon I hear so much on XBOX when I used to play CoD and GoW, before I got sick of it and join the adults.

This is harrasment. Mods please step in.

[Avelya]

There is actually a ton of content compared to most games.

I admit there is a good amount of content for a random single player game ( then again people playing things like Elder Scrolls would be ashamed I wrote that ), but the fact is this game was publicized as a shooter MMO, thus people expected more than... this.

[Beck]

This is harrasment. Mods please step in.

This is a Troll. Mods please delete his account.

Too bad you missed the 5 min I devoted to just you on Air. Apparently it was worth some standing ovations.

[Mog]

Hey man I waisted my money on this **** tastic game, which is bugged, has horrible combat and dam right going to vocal about it. Again I support syfy and feel with MINOR tweeks such as a shoulder swap or sticky cover the game could be saved. So stop white knighting. 67$ For crap tastic gameplay. I payed 15$ for mass effect 3. Wtf? Your gun does not even shoot straight its a shooter game!

And I do contribute I made positive suggestions, such as cosmetic changes, pointing out bugs(like the gun barrel and cross hair being off) So stop white knighting. Back off I have the right to annoy people who kiss ***. Not saying your kissing *** but if my posts annoy you just the same fine. Regardless fix the ****ing aim. Add shoulder swapping and a cover mechanic.

Its your fault for buying the game and getting burned. Look in the mirror dude because the problem will be starring right back at you.

You could have demo'd the game in the beta's they held. You could have done research about the game before purchasing and found out if you would like it or not. There were many streams up on launch day and lots of video footage.

There really is no excuse to go on blaming somebody for the money you lost when you could have avoided it by being more cautious.

[Snaloe]

Im a solo player and played a number of PC MMO's at Launch and this has been great, no lag, freaky to say no glitches, and great fun, would like to see more cars and jeeps, better chat and social options but I am sure this will improve. I love the payment model free to play normally makes the games content all go into the store and pay to play makes my bank hurt, but the buy the game and play free model I really love.

Not sure about other platforms tho.. I don't have a xbox or ps3.

[EdgeTW]

No, not a clean launch. You have to consider all the elements of launch; the scores of complaints surrounding downloads and installing, access, pre-order benefits, etc. You can't just say "I was able to log in and play when the servers went up quietly 6 hours early and ran into no problems for a few hours while I was on.. clean launch!". Not without people wanting to throw something at you, anyway.

[CookingWithGuns]

No, not a clean launch. You have to consider all the elements of launch; the scores of complaints surrounding downloads and installing, access, pre-order benefits, etc. You can't just say "I was able to log in and play when the servers went up quietly 6 hours early and ran into no problems for a few hours.. clean launch!". Not without people wanting to throw something at you, anyway.

Well in the MMO world, "clean" is a relative term. Compared to most MMOs (especially cross-platform ones), this can absolutely be considered a clean launch.

[Pissed off]

Having been a veteran of many MMO's Defiance has been very smooth. Even WoW which seems to be peoples gold standard was a pathetic mess for two weeks. I got a months credit on my account by the time the first 2 weeks were up because of the issues Blizzard had.

Seeing as this is the first MMO on the xbox to make it to launch since FF11 there is no real comparison, but think about the fact that no other MMO for xbox made it to launch, the problems were THAT BAD.

The fact that idiots like "Pissed Off" are too stupid to post in their own specific forums (XBOX 360) or use the SEARCH feature because their petty questions have been already answered about 50 times since launch by many hard working volunteers of the community who deserve some well earned appreciation.

Yes people returned the game, mostly those who didn't educate themselves on what this game was, or came in thinking it was COD in MMO mode, or have never experienced an MMO before and only have a single player experience to work with. This isn't a game you drop in the CD tray and it works. It would be nice, but as far as my experience with other MMOs Defiance has had a fantastic launch.

Can this guy be banned for harrasment. And for the record I hate call of duty, but love mass effect,gears 3rd person shooters I assumed this had cover and tacticle gameplay not what ever the hell this game is. Its a mess anyone who talks about it being a mess gets trolled or white knighted. You have no right to harras people for saying the devs made mistakes.

I also post in general discussion not souly xbox, but I also posted all my positive contributions in suggestions, then suddenly people find it offensive that I noticed cover was messed up, and that aim is off. Lord forgive this horrible sin of noticong a bug!

When I orginally posted, there were no posts in the search function about cover mechanics.

[Snaloe]

I don't have to consider anything other than what I experienced tbh.. I was able to login all day, play none stop, got all my pre-order items, had a blast, didn't glich, didn't get angry or mad for any reason... I have seen many rage posts on the forums but all forums always have threads full of whiners and moaners that go on and on about how the games is not like this or dose not have that, that I expected it to have.

[Pissed off]

What cover issue? I've had one disconnect since launch (that wasn't patch related, and was possibly my ISP not the server). I hit what I aim at, have only had a lag issue twice lasting about 30 seconds each, and was only refused entrance to the game twice (once on opening day, and once the next day) but was in within 3 tries.

The only constant issue I've noticed is pop-ins, but that is to be expected during launch week for an MMO, especially on a console.

I'm wondering what the connection speeds are for the people having a lot of these in-game issues.

Stand behind cover, notice your exposed when you aim around left wall and die.

Aim above a short wall, it hits the wall every time. Even when you clearly have line of site. This is a huge issue. And I'm not the only one to think so.