One good thing you can say about this game is...

[Dagbiker]

Gearbox also made Samba de Amigo, Counter Strike, Blue Shift, and Opposing Force.
So yes, one of the games they made was bad.

[Ae86]

Money talks, all those IPS have sold over 20m, some as high as 160m copies, Borderlands has sold 9.35m. while 9m in sales is respectable, its not on par, not even close.

So i take your bahahaha and up it with a muahahahahah

Borderlands is also a current-generation game. Halo,COD and FF already have their fanbases built.

[EAST N2382R]

Cognitive Dissidence much? Jesus, sounds like a lot rationalization to me. The point is there will never be a BL mmo, because gearbox is too lazy to even support their current game by actually making their own DLC's...

My finally point is almost the entire Brother in Arms Series is exclusively made by gearbox and fits perfectly into "halfassed first person shooter"

At least be consistent in your argument -_-

[Ae86]

Cognitive Dissidence much? Jesus, sounds like a lot rationalization to me. The point is there will never be a BL mmo, because gearbox is too lazy to even support their current game by actually making their own DLC's...

My finally point is almost the entire Brother in Arms Series is exclusively made by gearbox and fits perfectly into "halfassed first person shooter"

At least be consistent in your argument -_-

Most First person's shooters are half assed so that really is a null and void point.

[JonDav]

We were not discusing game quality, just ip value.

Money talks, all those IPS have sold over 20m, some as high as 160m copies, Borderlands has sold 9.35m. while 9m in sales is respectable, its not on par, not even close.

So i take your bahahaha and up it with a muahahahahah

Borderlands has only two installments while every game you mentioned has atleast 5. Horrible argument...

[gryphonv]

Borderlands is also a current-generation game. Halo,COD and FF already have their fanbases built.

I agree with this, but to build an IP you usually want to outsell your previous releases.

All in all I'm not bashing borderlands as an IP, and I'm sure many developers/distributors would love to mimic the success of borderlands. It's just not top of the pack.

[EAST N2382R]

Most First person's shooters are half assed so that really is a null and void point.

My point was a counter to your illogical argument, so by law of transference are you saying your argument "really is null and void"

[gryphonv]

Borderlands has only two installments while every game you mentioned has atleast 5. Horrible argument...

Valuble ip means sales history, money, cash, what ever you want to call it.

I know the next COD game will probably outsell both borderlands combined, the next borderlands, probably won't sell as much as borderlands 2.

[Seiox]

Just as a little note there aren't very many games that I know of that got MMOs of themselves after sticking to a certain style for a long time. The only 2 I can think of off the top of my head are WoW and Elder Scrolls. Then take a look at Bungie or w/e and their Destiny game. Most people know them for Halo. Now they're making a sci fi shooter mmo, but it isn't Halo. All in all what I'm trying to say is that even if Gearbox were to make a MMO it would be tough to do so with Borderlands.

[n1ghtst0rm27]

I like the Arkfalls.