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    Legendary Rig/Chip drop rate increase?

    I can say without a doubt that the Expedition rewards system is not working correctly. I have over 400+ rounds logged and have received 1 oj rig and 2 oj chips. Our group has been to tier 43 round 20 five times never receiving an oj rig or chip past round 5 with 1 exception an oj rig at round 8.
    Most players realize that Expedition were designed to make real money for the game since it has been FTP. However the in game rewards vs real life monetary cost ratio is absurd. I have waited this long to post because I figured this was a mistake on the part of Trion and would be corrected in time. I have yet to see a DEV,MOD or any member of Trion address this . If this is working as intended please let the community know so we can move on as a group instead of watching a large number of my friends slowly leave the game.
    I am a patron pass holder and I try to put at least an additional $20.00 U.S. in this game every week as do most of the gamers I run with so that the Trion staff is taken care of and knows that we love the game they have made and we appreciate all there hard work. The problem is simple math in this example I will be extremely generous to Trion. lets say with 1 hunter rec I avg 5 rounds so 10 hunter recs for 50 rounds and with the patron pass I pay 480 bits per 20 hunter rec's about $6.00 U.S. Not factoring in the cost of the patron pass or the free rec's from the pass just straight cost per rec to reach 400 rounds it would take 80 hunter rec's for 400 rounds in which I have received 1 oj rig and 2 worthless chips so for $24.00 and weeks of game play is that all I get?
    Like I mentioned before that is being very generous to Trion. Your avg gamer from what I have seen will spend 1 rec per 3 rounds and past tier 28 which is round 5 for ego 6k gamers the rec per round ratio goes up quite a bit. So with all of that being typed I am going to send this first to a MOD and wait a bit for a response if I do not get a response I will place this post on the forms to see if I can get one there.

    I really do love this game and I really do want to stay so please let me know if the rewards system is working as intended or if it will be fixed at some point.

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    Round cost estimations vary by skill. When we bring strong groups, we can do 10 Rounds on 1 HR. In regards to the loot, the system is designed to hit a ceiling at the end of Round 3 and everything you get in terms of loot from that point forward is on the same loot table from its respective source. As a result, players have resorted to "shady" methods of finding ways to complete the same Round over and over after 3 because the loot doesn't get any better by design, regardless of how challenging the content becomes.

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    That is not how they sold it to us though, they clearly said drop rates would improve as rounds go on. In other words better skilled players are better rewarded for their efforts. No mention of a cap after round three, they did say that decent gear wouldn't drop till after round three but that isn't true either. I have heard of people getting oj shields in round one, and countless people only ever seeing blue and green no matter how far they get.

    Lets face facts, there is no difference between open world rng and expedition rng. Even though they should be nothing alike.

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    Which is why my Sig says what it says. They say one thing yet implement another while expecting us to foot the bill for such a thing. When the system puts you at the mercy of RNG and nothing can be traded, hard work must guarantee a tangible return or people will move on.

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    you know its never going to happen . they love their broke rng. i recall some1 saying that they are never going to change the zagger . and the said it would still be the best sawed off. lol the made all sawed offs garbage . never put stock in what they say for real . just like they said they would fix all the booting action (two years ago). by the way. it still booting us . they will never fix it . never

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    Its another classic example of the Devs of this game failing to reward skilled and veteran players. Its actually quite shocking if we look at everything thats come in the last few months especially, any over type business and Trion would be bankrupt, Hiding behind the "Free To Play" model in the sense that even though a great deal of players pay them income they don't need to fix the problems which we deserve because hey "its free to play".

    I love the game don't get me wrong and that keeps me paying and playing but in all fairness I sincerly hope any future work the developers of this game seek after moving on from Trion, this is on their C.V. If I was developing a game I would actually employ people that could fix issues and create competent new content that would keep players engaged and well rewarded and keep a constant database of players.

    From what i have seen whilst playing this game the last few months the talents of this team are limited to creating new weapons which don't work as intended, re-skinning old models, monetizing their player bases ideas in shameless fashion & creating more bugs than they fix. Oh and they made a poorly built copy of Alcatraz which would have made the movie "Escape From Alcatraz" about 99% shorter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevrin View Post
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    lol love that sig

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirServed View Post
    we can do 10 Rounds on 1 HR. .
    10 rd/hr? 4 loading screens per rd avg 15 sec per screen=10min loading. With a minimal 2min to restock and sell every round add another 20 min totaling 30min so far. Boss fight 1.5 min so another 15 min totaling 45 min. so it takes you only 15 min to run through 10 rounds times 2 before the boss? I don't know about you but just running with no mobs takes me over 1 min each which is another 20 min that's not even factoring in killing any mobs at all just straight running. However if you by HR you meant hunter (req ) not hour then disregard that entire break down. As far as your group strength being a factor I averaging it for most ppl not trying to see who is the best. if that was the case I would have added go to msdawood on youtube and watch us fly through round 20 tier 43 as 1 example.

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    I've gotten OJ rig and chip both on tier 25 but different times. I turned both to shards cause the ojs were junk.

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