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    Also the unfair advantage any PC player will have over any console player.

    A mouse and a HD monitor with any decent graphics card will give any PC player an advantage over their console counter parts.

    A mouse's DPI will always be > than a controller's.

    As a console player i would feel at a disadvantage in game modes such as PVP.

    Its a great idea and i liked how someone reference FFXI. But in a game which involves hit box's and latency and large scale world environment. A PC will provide a faster, cleaner, crisper experience than any current console could muster.

    Just my opinion about the difference in gaming between the two in general. Even FFXI ran slower and you couldn't see the enemies as far away or couldn't see ALL the people in Jueno vs's a PC. (^.-)b I should know i played on both for 5 years.lol
    PC wasnt included in the discussion, however the experience wouldnt be extremely different if the latency wasnt a problem, although the graphics obviously suffer a bit the game would still be the same for both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dekar View Post
    I can understand that but at the same time there are plenty of my games I feel more comfortable playing using my 360 controller. Personally I feel it's just so much more appealing to hear "Play on the platform of your choice with ALL of your friends."
    Yeah my wife is a controller gal. She has broken her wrist in her younger years in 1 sport or another which effects her endurance for gaming on a PC. Which is why we bought her a controller. So i am happy to hear that on our PC she can use her MS controller for easier play.

    But as far as Xbox playing with PC or Consoles playing with PC's it would seem like an unfair advantage. thats all (^-^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee View Post
    PC wasnt included in the discussion, however the experience wouldnt be extremely different if the latency wasnt a problem, although the graphics obviously suffer a bit the game would still be the same for both parties.
    Ah sorry i thought the discussion also covered consoles playing with PC users. My bad (^-^)

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    In the end I support segregation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee View Post
    A Microsoft spokesperson agreed with that sentiment: "We have a high level of expectation for our game developers to ensure that all Live experiences remain top notch. Because we can't guarantee this level of quality, or control the player experience on other consoles or gaming networks, we currently do not open our network to games that allow this cross-over capability."
    now you have to see the sence of moronic irony about this statement from ms.

    they dont want cross over because they want only the best for there customers. except for the fact that because of these wonderful dedicated servers they are hacked and people cheat all the time, lag switches are so rife within the xbox world...

    its down to 2 reasons, 1 they want people to buy both xbox and ps3 so everyone can play with all there friends making more money, and 2 they dont want there gamers playing with people who dont pay a sub fee and get exactly the same service.

    comes down to 3 reasons why ms wont allow it, money, money and errrr money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Also the unfair advantage any PC player will have over any console player.

    A mouse and a HD monitor with any decent graphics card will give any PC player an advantage over their console counter parts.

    A mouse's DPI will always be > than a controller's.

    As a console player i would feel at a disadvantage in game modes such as PVP.

    Its a great idea and i liked how someone reference FFXI. But in a game which involves hit box's and latency and large scale world environment. A PC will provide a faster, cleaner, crisper experience than any current console could muster.

    Just my opinion about the difference in gaming between the two in general. Even FFXI ran slower and you couldn't see the enemies as far away or couldn't see ALL the people in Jueno vs's a PC. (^.-)b I should know i played on both for 5 years.lol
    lol "unfair" advantage doesnt mean automatic victory...

    I can tie one hand behind my back and blindfold myself in a fight... that would give someone a HUGE advantage... that doesnt mean I still couldnt beat them to a bloody pulp.

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    I'm not so sure about there being that much of an advantage using a mouse on a computer over using a controller. I know that with the hardware differences it's more likely that a pc would have an advantage but I use my Xbox controler for games on my computer and seem to do better than a keyboard. I think it's whatever you are most comfortable with. It may take me a fraction of a second longer for a precision shot but it is much easier to control movement and other aspects which makes up for it in my opinion.

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    tbh kb/m vs pad. yes it can be true in some very certon circumstances, take COD. where fights are won and loss in a spilt second. 1 bullet here or there and the fight is over. because that is a fast paced game that requires high amount of accuracy with speed of reaction (this is where the mouse comes in being able to move to target a very spilt second faster). slower pvp games and things are evend out. most fights in bf are about tactics and knowning where they are and where you want to be. its rare to have a fire fight in close quarters, but more about having the right weapon in the right situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbill View Post
    In the end I support segregation.

    lol Separate but Equal
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    My main thing is my buddy has a junker PC, but also a 360. He would have a much better time on the Xbox ofcourse, but an mmo is all about joining together with friends and he may not be as interested without that. This is not trions fault, they went out of their way to show it can be done. I blame only the state of the industry.

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