Extremely Hard Missions

[Zaeed]

Weapons and your specs in game make a huge difference. Have you modded your weapons? What perk abilities do you have active? I personally use a AR and a semi-auto sniper rifle 90% of the time, but have a load with a shottie that tosses grenades and a grenade launcher for those times there are tons of little mobs and need to AE. I usually have the perks to get more ammo and reload faster loaded, which helps a lot. A quick duck behind something and the gun is already reloaded, I am usually waiting on my shield to refresh before I jump back in.

FYI, never played a shooter before in my life, came from a MMORPG background, but the main carryover I learned was... equipment and perks are #1. If you have the right gear/skills ready, the game goes from impossible/frustrating to challenging/fun in the blink of an eye.

Oh yeah, rarely stand still. strafing, rolling, etc... is required. Make sure to roll when you are on fire BTW, it puts it out! Also a great way to avoid incoming grenades, rockets, etc...

Yeah, good weapon that you are comfortable with is important too, though I don't think it's as important in this game as in other traditional MMORPGs because its a shooter and works differently. I think your aim and ability to deal with many enemies at once is a lot more important than your equipment. It doesn't really matter how good gun you have if you can't aim it or can't handle multiple bad guys coming at you.

[Kwoung]

Yeah, good weapon that you are comfortable with is important too, though I don't think it's as important in this game as in other traditional MMORPGs because its a shooter and works differently. I think your aim and ability to deal with many enemies at once is a lot more important than your equipment. It doesn't really matter how good gun you have if you can't aim it or can't handle multiple bad guys coming at you.

Good point, I also tend to cut back on the multiples as much as possible by taking a lot of cover and only letting the one I am killing see me. A nice effect on the weapon, like stun of fire is also real handy so you can get multiple shots off(and hopefully a kill) before the mob recovers and shoots back.

Hope some of this helped the guy having the issues! I had a hard time as well until I learned a bit more strategy and how to deal with certain situations.

[alred]

Learn to retreat a lot. You don't have to stand still or stay in the same little area. Kite them around things as you reload.

Maybe goto the nearest supply depot/camp and when people come ask for help.

Every mission is doable solo. You just have to move around a lot.

I was on a mission, I forget it's name. You had to go into a mining camp, fix 3 relays, then turn on a transmitting tower. I was doing that solo, and spent an hour getting killed, and killing the mobs. The mobs followed me to the spawn points, so when I died, they were on top of me. The only chance I had, was to jump in my car and run as many over as possible before the car exploded. Then it would take a while before I could call my car again. It was a frustrating mission, but damn, it felt good to finally drop the last bad guy, and get a mission complete.

[Zaeed]

Another tip I learned from other games is the "Right hand advantage". I don't know how well it works in this game but I guess it doesn't hurt to mention it. I had some success against mutants and Dark matter at least. Basically in the game you and most of the enemies with guns are right handed (Dark matter enforcers are left handed I think but it works against them too). So if you position yourself in such way that a wall or other cover protects your body to the left but your weapon can still shoot forward without hitting the wall. That way you can shoot the enemy but they can't shoot you.


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I can shoot him but he can't shoot me!

[pappacube]

I agree that there are some tedious quests though don't believe nerfing is the solution. The solution is to simply get a proper chat system implemented and running in this game!

Oh dear! These hellbugs are eating my face off!
general [Bob]: Hey! Anyone mind helping me with <insert quest name here>
general [Smith]: Sure thing! On my way!

Problem solved.

yes, the chat system gimps the MMO bits of this game bad. but it is an awesome game...

[Tgreen]

Well ... if Nim would be a push over you'd have a lot more disappointed people here. It's the final boss of the basic story line.
If anything it was too easy once you figure out what's going on.
And that's just the thing ... even though it's a shooter and a tactical game by default because of it, there's a great strategic component to it. Choosing the right weapons and perks (even grenade type) will make all the difference.
There isn't one best weapon or one best perk-build. But there is one for each enemy type and boss!

As an example let's take the shielded raider with a shotgun. It's easy to figure that one out, since he blocks plenty of shots unless you hit him with explosive damage ... detonators, rocket launchers and grenade-shotguns are the answer.

For Nim ... fighting with a pistol with very high crit multiplier and sniper rifle is awesome for all the other Dark Matter enemies they melt like nothing, but you most certainly will not kill Nim with this. However a burst shotgun, 25 rps sub-machine gun are both very mobile, easy to aim and will do the job nicely. Ghost is also a great improvement here, simply for the regen ... you will be able to heal up to full with a HP-regen shield (highly recommended btw), while Nim just stands their waiting for you to come out of stealth. The rest is pressing ALT at the right moment and general awareness of where he is.

Also before engaging a group of mobs try to get a read on what kind of mobs there are, which ones to take out first and how to use terrain and your loudout to your advantage ... obviously this isn't really important with scrappers or hellbugs, but with everything else taking an extra breath before firing the first shot will speed things up in the long run. For example - is there high ground that overlooks most of the mission terrain? Are there mobs up there? And how do you yourself get there (e.g. ladders)?

yes, the chat system gimps the MMO bits of this game bad. but it is an awesome game...

They are fixing that ... at least they say they are. And it's quite obvious how it's needed. Badly.

[foxsyd]

I had a lot of difficulty in a episode quest yesterday, last night. I ran out of ammo, couldn't find anything nearby to refill... Somehow I managed to complete it with no ammo... I swear must of been hours struggling on it, died so many times getting no where.

[Sirile]

I have to say I agree with you but I also agree in not nerfing the game. I played the beta on the 360 and the fights where chalanging but when it came to playing the actual game. I am finding myself frustrated a lot because these enemies have gotten god like abilities like to rapid fire a lober so you can't get away and it kills you...

I just finished the mission to recue some robot on a peer and when leaving I was confronted by 2 of these Gods with lobbers and they kept killing me over and over and over. I figured out how to beat them but I believe our weapons are gimped compared to the enemies. I always make sure when getting a gun that i look at the dmg and make sure the compastity of the clips are high. Also I use a snipper rifle because no other weapon will give those creeps enough damage to kill them unless you want to spend a life time with them... I have the ranger sniper rifle right now and I use the assault rifle that I got from the episode mission. Both these weapons have been great for me and I have noticed no other weapons come close... But I still die countless times.. I don't know what I am doing.... Also shield seems to help only a little bit but I think it is gimped compared to the enemies... I believe this game is more of a join a clan orientation so for whatever you do you can do with others lol

I will say this it is hard to find others to play with in the game.... Yes they are there but not everybody uses the chat window and not everybody is on your Xbox live account lol so communication is hard when nobody will respond

[AgentMytho]

My first mission in to Sausalito, it was simple enough, take out some raiders. unfortunately they were fighting some 99'er (lots of them likes some sort of gang war). I accidently agro'd both sides and got flanked. I retreated into a Hellbug nest who were fighting a Wandering Hulk. The hulk agro'd on me too. I ran back through the Raiders and 99'ers until the Hulk took enough random damage to start killing them. Unfortunately he only killed a few, and came back after me.

The whole situation was absolutely ridiculous. I called my ATV and took off, but accidentally slid off an embankment into the water and couldn't runaway anymore. I used a rocky outcropping on my little island as cover and shot the Raiders, 99'ers and Hulk until they all finally died several minutes later (fortunately the Hulk could not charge me on my little island.), and for my troubles, the Hulk dropped a blue weapon.... into the water where I couldn't retrieve it. I eventually managed to make it back to the quest where I turned two handles and left.

[chimifry]

Here's a few tips.

1. Keep the enemy in front of you. If this means you have to retreat then retreat.
Seriously, you can't shoot backwards and forwards at the same time.
2. Find the biggest baddest dude in the yard. And drop him as quickly as possible.
Obviously take out immediate threats as they come but getting the big dog out of the way makes for an easier fight.
3. You're not invincible.
Find cover and clear all LOS when your shield breaks. Switch to a short ranged weapon just in case an enemy get's ballsy.
4. Use grenades liberally.
Every time your grenade refreshes find the best spot for it and let it rip. With practice you can even start anticipating where to throw it.
5. Use your ego power liberally.
It doesn't matter which one you have really just as long as you know how to use it so it benefits you. I believe there really isn't a "best one".

6. Weapons....Find a medium to long range weapon you like for your Primary
As mentioned above secondary should be short ranged.

7. Have fun.
If this means "going rambo" every now and then. Do it. This is a game and you should treat it as such.