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    Please buff FRC line of weapons!

    Why are the FRC weapons so weak compared to their VBI, EMC, VOT and Votan competition?

    FRC Magnum- deals low damage and very low fire rate! It needs like 6.0 crit or 45k damage without any modifiers for it to be of any use!

    FRC Nomad- deals the same damage as a Techmag but the fire rate of a Pusler! It needs a damage or crit buff!

    FRC Particle Scattergun- takes forever to charge for like a crappy 2x damage! It needs to at least deal the amount of damage a Nano Fragger or Zagger does on a full charge shot! Because now it's a useless gun!

    FRC Heavy Scattergun- needs only a huge Accuracy buff and maybe fire rate and it would be a great shotgun!

    FRC Birdshot- needs something! It's trashy make it shoot 3x faster or 3x damage because it just shoots marshmallows at targets! It needs to be a spray and pray gun for hitting many targets and causing chaos!

    Other notable weak guns

    VBI PAS Tornado - AKA Piece of Stacko
    VBI Haar

    Any other guns I should add?

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    Hey, I like the VBI Haar! Not that I'd say no to a buff, ofc...

    edit: Oh yeah, add the Derailer to that list please. I was reading some old posts where the devs were considering giving it a damage bonus against mechanical enemies (ex: Bulwarks), but I'm pretty sure that never happened. They should go ahead and add that feature because the enemies in this game do not use vehicles at all...

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    The Birdshot was already given a buff.

    I say leave things alone. There will always be superior and inferior things in life. These are examples of the inferior. Not everything can or should be equal.

    Besides, whenever they try to "fix" something, they break 10 other things.

    Let it alone and wait til you get better drops. JS
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    Most of these no one has used since they came out. A birdshot is fun to mess with once in a while and I messed with nomads for a time, but the rest really just need to be removed from the loot pool. No buff is going to fix these

    Also the nomads advantage is mag size. If you notice all these weapons have an advantage they just usually aren't the prefered advantage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen_Aingeal View Post
    The Birdshot was already given a buff.

    I say leave things alone. There will always be superior and inferior things in life. These are examples of the inferior. Not everything can or should be equal.

    Besides, whenever they try to "fix" something, they break 10 other things.

    Let it alone and wait til you get better drops. JS
    So you're saying it's ok for half of your loot to be automatically useless! Not because you don't like the gun but because It is clearly inferior to all other guns! I like to use the other types of guns in the game other the the Same lame six guns with different names, VOT Blast Rifle VBI smg, Wolfhound, VBI assault Rifle! VOT Techmag and VOT Pulser! Don't these guns boring after awhile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmpowell View Post
    Most of these no one has used since they came out. A birdshot is fun to mess with once in a while and I messed with nomads for a time, but the rest really just need to be removed from the loot pool. No buff is going to fix these

    Also the nomads advantage is mag size. If you notice all these weapons have an advantage they just usually aren't the prefered advantage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiller115 View Post
    So you're saying it's ok for half of your loot to be automatically useless! Not because you don't like the gun but because It is clearly inferior to all other guns! I like to use the other types of guns in the game other the the Same lame six guns with different names, VOT Blast Rifle VBI smg, Wolfhound, VBI assault Rifle! VOT Techmag and VOT Pulser! Don't these guns boring after awhile?
    Yes. I'm saying it's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen_Aingeal View Post
    Yes. I'm saying it's okay.

    Look, we can't all have Bentleys. Sometimes we gotta drive a Pacer......
    You are mislead and require guidance! But truly I don't like that these six guns eclipse all others! They should just remove them if they won't buff them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen_Aingeal View Post
    The Birdshot was already given a buff.

    I say leave things alone. There will always be superior and inferior things in life. These are examples of the inferior. Not everything can or should be equal.

    Besides, whenever they try to "fix" something, they break 10 other things.

    Let it alone and wait til you get better drops. JS

    I'd rather they work on the bad guns. Everyone in the game shouldn't be using the same handful of guns because the other are crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiller115 View Post
    So you're saying it's ok for half of your loot to be automatically useless! Not because you don't like the gun but because It is clearly inferior to all other guns! I like to use the other types of guns in the game other the the Same lame six guns with different names, VOT Blast Rifle VBI smg, Wolfhound, VBI assault Rifle! VOT Techmag and VOT Pulser! Don't these guns boring after awhile?
    99% of the loot that I receive is automatically useless. It's not Ok but at the same time there's nothing I can feasibly do about it short of adding more complaints to the existing long list. Every gun won't be equal. The sooner you accept this fact, the sooner you can move on. Everyone has a right to their personal preference, I keep it simple by picking the best gun for the job since the others will be numerically inferior. In case you didn't notice, Defiance itself gets repetitive after a while, but the individual happenings in each encounter is what makes it worth sticking with through the long haul.

    EDIT: Also, my usable inventory is 13 Weapons, 2 Shields, and 2 Cyber Rigs.

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