remastering... are you kidding me?

[Lamar Kendrick]

am i getting trolled? i've already wasted 1000 arkforge on my potential 3x dmg tachmag pulser and why am i getting the same mastery over and over again.... i got crit mult twice and recoil three times and other nonsense masteries. this is getting ridiculous esp redundant bonus masteries. instead of saving my arkforge for this upcoming supreme rarity, it gets wasted by giving me bad masteries and ik alot of people are experiencing this but this is borderline crazy. i just want my dmg mastery and this is what i get from spending 1 year playing defiance (started 8/16/14)

ps

it's ok getting random masteries but getting recoil for the 3rd time is making me mad. my tachmag has grenadier and green recoil and sits at -0.04 i don't need another recoil roll to make it better

UPDATE: i got recoil again for the 4th time in under 1 day -_-

[Claydough]

1000 is usually average for re-rolling.

[YahootsMagoondi]

i had a dbl dmg vbi eec smg.

i rolled it 42 times for the 3rd dmg and never got it.

i sold it because it disgusted me.

tell me again what the average cost should be for this and supremes again...

[Olaf]

i had a dbl dmg vbi eec smg.

i rolled it 42 times for the 3rd dmg and never got it.

i sold it because it disgusted me.

tell me again what the average cost should be for this and supremes again...

Well supreme remastering should definitely cycle thorough each possible mastery before repeating one, it's going to cost loads anyway lol

[Gaige12]

Yeah I can't stand the whole 'guns casino' thing going on in this game. RNG is completely borked.

[Smokey Black]

Yeah tried getting any useful mastery on my AR. When I got it it had 8% damage next shot after a kill. Relrolled got crit from the hip. Relrolled got crit while crouched. Relrolled and got damage on last shot. Rerolled and got crit while crouched this is where I got suspicious. Drank some brew said f it and reroled again and got crit from the hip. Strange tried one last time and ended up with the 8% damage on next shot after a kill. Just was Cycling through the same few worthless masteries. I would of taken reload, recoil, mag+, damage or crit.

[Johnny Stranger]

the only guarantee you have is it won't roll consecutive masteries....but you can definitely keep cycling through the same 2 or 3 forever ... rng hard at work...it sucks most times....

[Crack]

I had a Cannoneer Saw that took about 1500af to roll a recoil and Im sitting around 1000af for an AR trying to get the 3rd dmg roll. I finally gave up on the AR and it just sits in my inv until I decide to dump more forge into it.

Ive brought it up several times, but at the cost of AF vs how much you can naturally earn in-game, the mastery roll should cycle, not repeat.

[Sevrin]

Ya. It's happenstance. I've had some guns where I got the mastery I wanted in the first three times. But more often it took more than 10 tries Most recently I just gave up after burning through 2200 AF and got crit while crouched probably four times. (and boy do I wish I had that AF back now given the whole supreme thing). And then there is this: one of the few times I wasn't looking for damage mastery, got damage on the first roll, lol. Kept it there...well just because.

One thing I do these days, if, for example, I am looking for one specific mastery, say damage. I try to roll it while the weapon is still epic (30 AF as opposed to 75 AF). In the case of damage, there is only a 1% difference (4% v. 5%). (This of course was before I decided to stop upgrading epics.)

And not only does it get expensive (AF wise, especially if the weapon is OJ) but the time sink can be awful also. I totally agree that the mastery roll should cycle not repeat. But I'm thinking that will never happen.

[Saminator]

Don't use the ark forge to remaster your weapons yet as you will have to remaster them again after they go supreme to get the supreme mastery.