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    Quote Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    Yeah it giving the oj roll while purple was a mistake but it is drawing random oj rolls on pts atm.
    Yeah they cut off the guaranteed damage roll and dropped the ball on the gun. Cash grab protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey Black View Post
    Yeah they cut off the guaranteed damage roll and dropped the ball on the gun. Cash grab protocol.
    It should still be guaranteed oj dmg when it gets fixed

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    Havoc being a fixed roll weapon, and even showing OJ DMG on the upgrade preview - it should have got OJ DMG when actually upgraded to OJ.

    Just like the more well known fixed roll weapons (named jackpots) would have their fixed rolls. I think at least one person tested rerolling a named weapon before upgrading it, and reroll-a-roll was reset (automatically by the game) to default before it upgraded to supreme. Shouldn't something like that happen with havoc where it reverts to original rolls as part of upgrading to oj? Instead of havoc getting orange reload? lol

    What you're saying is definitely how things should work. I'm trying to figure out what happened to get in that situation.

    Could you walk me through, step by step, what had been done to the weapon prior to getting into that state?
    Or that's how I took Rashere's comment.

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    I read it as I removed the gaurnteed oj damage from the epic gun while fully modded and messed up. Even with the oj damage roll I never kept the havoc at my ego. They broke a semi working gun to have players chase the arkforge dragon.

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    The special guns that come in purple should have kept the oj rolls, it was cool and didn't hurt anything. I sure wont be spending 500AF to upgrade something they wont let me take to supreme..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    The special guns that come in purple should have kept the oj rolls, it was cool and didn't hurt anything. I sure wont be spending 500AF to upgrade something they wont let me take to supreme..
    Yup preach, church.

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    Rashere's actually saying that it is a fixed rolls gun, and should always get oj damage (not reload/crit/rate/whatever).

    Quote Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    The special guns that come in purple should have kept the oj rolls, it was cool and didn't hurt anything. I sure wont be spending 500AF to upgrade something they wont let me take to supreme..
    & yeah... pretty much that. The only thing that made havoc special was that it could have the damage roll while still pruple... the way it sits now, its just another VBI Assault Rifle that happens to have cannoneer and a blue fire rate with no recoil roll

    Oh but it (is supposed to) have a guaranteed oj damage roll when OJ'd - so what... already have orange syphon pl8 heavies (which 3 out of 4 currently happen to be un-upgradeable), and ST blasts with nano effects that proc DoT's for opportunist score. lol

    heg... does havoc even have a 10% dmg mfg bonus? lol.

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    Broke both of my havocs down & sold the 8 t4mods.
    Dont miss them as never really used them..


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    All I know is that the Havoc is a nice gun for my leveling toons.
    Hope it gets fixed.
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  9. #19
    Only reason i kept it was because it had the oj roll. If thats been scrapped the gun is a boat anchor. There ae better guns out there. I find myself using mostly purge ar's and a couple of the new sol stuff.

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