Has tier rerolling been changed to affect lower tiers? Bug?

[YahootsMagoondi]

the reason it works that way is because when the new roll system was implemented it eliminated double rolls and the devs wanted all available rolls to be available at the highest tier...in theory you can always make the gun better this way.

i assume you are looking at a named weapon in your other example. named guns do not get random rolls when upgrading to supreme. all the rolls move up a tier and you get a new white roll. so if you have changed a roll on an oj named gun, the it will change back and be moved up a tier when you supreme it. so for example, i have an oj ghost duster mkii that is originally mag, accuracy, crit, ego crit, dmg. i changed the acc and got fire rate. but if i supreme it the acc will come back and it will be fire rate, mag, accuracy, ego crit, crit, dmg. i can then reroll the accuracy and it could change to mag or fire rate and change one of those to accuracy.

[Menetekel]

Another thing, I've a weapon with a rerolled blue roll ok? when i go to the supreming screen, that blue roll(it's shown as OJ in the supreming screen) reverts back to the original. Like is this also normal?

If its a named weapon then yes this is normal.

[Menetekel]

the reason it works that way is because when the new roll system was implemented it eliminated double rolls and the devs wanted all available rolls to be available at the highest tier...in theory you can always make the gun better this way.

Just a minor correction... the supreme roll can only be one of 5 rolls.... reload, mag, crit, fira and damage. At least on ar anyway I'd have to check the other weapon types.

[Hunter0]

OK i get it now. Thanks all : )

[YahootsMagoondi]

Just a minor correction... the supreme roll can only be one of 5 rolls.... reload, mag, crit, fira and damage. At least on ar anyway I'd have to check the other weapon types.

yeah, i worded that poorly. by all available rolls at highest tier i meant the rolls actually available in that tier, not all the rolls in the pool for that gun. like no oj acc and no sup recoil on ars.

[Charapoo]

This just happened to me on PTS, i changed the OJ roll, it comes up as another lower tier roll (green i think), that caused the green roll to change to another random roll! It was not working this way.

I certainly didn't think so either. It almost defeats the purpose of setting rolls before upgrading.

Definitely wastes more AF this way..

[YahootsMagoondi]

it has worked this way since being introduced during the supreme weapons update. here is one link to relevant info...

http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...=1#post1808028

specifically, this part...
When rerolling a bonus, any existing bonus types that are already on the weapon and of a higher rarity tier (and thus would be more powerful) are excluded from the possibilities. After the new bonus is determined, if there is an existing bonus of the same type at a lower rarity tier, it will be changed to a bonus type that isn’t already on the weapon.

if you do this before upgrade, then the locked roll will be unavailable as your new tier roll, if it was a possibility at that tier, and then the lock will be removed after upgrade. unless it is a named weapon being supremed, then all rolls will revert to original and moved up a tier. the named arkbreaker weapons going from purple to oj will receive the set oj roll for each weapon and can still not be upgraded to supreme at this time.