Canoneer Fire Needler or Canoneer Fire TMP

[doctordabs]

Canoneer Fire Needler or Canoneer Fire TMP
Both are unmodded
Both are t4

Needler rolls can't be rerolled
TMP rolls can.....

Which is better for Warmaster overall when using a Crit-based loadout.

Examples would be helpful.

*note - the loadout does not have any life\shield steal on it so takes advantage of bullseye shield as well.

[stefb42]

I'm not actually sure but have you considered the wolfman as an alternative? Rolls can be tweaked but the best thing about the wolfman (may apply to other hellfire syn guns, not sure) is that your player never flinches when being hit by bombs etc, can still be knocked back but won't flinch, the gun doesn't even need to be in your hand, just equipped so u can still switch to high crit guns while he hangs

Remembering this though, I have an old rolled needler and tmp on my eu account both cannoneer, the tmp is 4x fire rate yet the needler still has a higher fire rate, faster reload, higher crit and more dmg than the tmp, these are mk1 though, I don't have mk2s to compare however I believe the mk2 needler is superior in every way to the mk1

[doctordabs]

dont have 100m to spend on a wolfman....nearly impossible to come by on pcNA

[konstantinov]

dont have 100m to spend on a wolfman....nearly impossible to come by on pcNA

Trying to understand how the PC NA market works is like asking a flower how to win the lottery.

[Claydough]

what do you mean by crit based loadout?

if you are going for max crit dps with the smg, then the needler in not what you are looking for.
if you're looking for crit dps, i would actually lean towards either a fop tachmag or a shrill tech pulser.

[doctordabs]

what do you mean by crit based loadout?

if you are going for max crit dps with the smg, then the needler in not what you are looking for.
if you're looking for crit dps, i would actually lean towards either a fop tachmag or a shrill tech pulser.

I appreciate that but it doesn't answer the question.
The reason behind the question is simply because i'm holding both of those specific guns in my inv and i'm trying to decide which one to keep and which one to give away.......

[Claydough]

im not really sure what you're trying to achive here then?

you're asking a pretty broad question here about compairing two weapons that we dont know the rolls of???

if you want my even broader advice for this question, i would give both away.
a standard canno tachmag is not worth the forge to be rerolling like you say (again, i dont even know the rolls)
and likewise, im not even sure a canno needler is even worth the 500af to upgrade it to oj where it really shines.

and if you are selling gold blast rifles for 30 mil scrip like you say you are, im sure you can afford better.

[Ea Rapture]

Trying to understand how the PC NA market works is like asking a flower how to win the lottery.

I think PS3 has the best market throughout platforms, tbh.

[konstantinov]

I think PS3 has the best market throughout platforms, tbh.

It's dependent on who you know and if you're on people's **** list or not.

[Ea Rapture]

It's dependent on who you know and if you're on people's **** list or not.

True, I'm meant for relative price ranges. PC is at 10x our prices while Xbox is at 5x. And this with the rubbish inflation.