Disable pvp for groups

[Belle Starr]

I'm just saying, a lot of people like the way PVP allows group play, so they can team with their friends and clan mates, and help the new players get their pursuits! As Mrdr said, multiplayer is part of MMO, so it should promote the multiplayer cooperative aspect of the game, not just individual players murdering each other one by one in PVP!

There is a saying in my country: If it's not broke, don't fix it! In this instance I don't see that PVP is broken when it comes to allowing grouping to promote group play!

If you want to play PVP in Defiance and have an 24/7 active clan, than I don't see why you don't just group with them when you play PVP, all things being equal! NP then! If you want to play one-on-one, then there are other games for that, or the Duel PVP in this one!

[Kuroro]

no...no...i told you why i dont play pvp in group.and i dont want a 1 vs 1 pvp,i want a 3 vs 3,6 vs 6,12 vs 12,16 vs 16,as it should be,not the actual 7 vs 2 or 15 vs 6 matches

[Mrdr]

no...no...i told you why i dont play pvp in group.and i dont want a 1 vs 1 pvp,i want a 3 vs 3,6 vs 6,12 vs 12,16 vs 16,as it should be,not the actual 7 vs 2 or 15 vs 6 matches

In that case, don't disable groups, make it so if 4 people are grouped and enter pvp then pvp will not start until at least 4 other people attempt to join on the opposite team. Kinda like how you have to wait to queue up in a coop.

[WhiteStrike]

In that case, don't disable groups, make it so if 4 people are grouped and enter pvp then pvp will not start until at least 4 other people attempt to join on the opposite team. Kinda like how you have to wait to queue up in a coop.

This exactly.

[Kuroro]

if a group of 4 joins then 4 more should join to start the match,being on the other team,so 2 or 3 persons join and,what if someone else joins with a full group?more people should be needed to start the match.i already tought what you said and no,it is not a solution,the solution is what i said : disable pvp for groups.

[tarmim]

Or just disable the ability to kill so everyone would be happy how does that sound to u

[kasiaPi]

But what if during, someone leaves game? Example: throws the system (critical), or he leaves the game (on a server PS3-EU, we have Guy, that leaves as his team loses). Then what? Others have to stand and wait for someone to join a incomplete group? Or maybe the game will end/restart ?
Besides, it is often a problem to start a game 2x2 (obviously not counting Sundays, where on FY is eternally full server)...

Or just disable the ability to kill so everyone would be happy how does that sound to u

I'll be glad, when you stop killing me

[Mrdr]

if a group of 4 joins then 4 more should join to start the match,being on the other team,so 2 or 3 persons join and,what if someone else joins with a full group?more people should be needed to start the match.i already tought what you said and no,it is not a solution,the solution is what i said : disable pvp for groups.

No. That's not a solution, it's a bigger problem.

In the scenario you just mentioned where there are 4 in a group and 4 more join so it's 4 on 4 and another group of 4 tries to join, then the original 8 play while the other 4 wait until another 4 join.

But if one or two quit, then pvp continues. There should be a difference value so that say there is always at least a ratio of 3:4 players or something. So say it's 16 vs 16 and 4 quit so it's now 12 vs 16 then game play continues. However, if it becomes 11 vs 16, then 4 from the group of 16 gets moved to another share that needs to even out the ratio of players, or that has a queue. The score of the people who moved could either get carried over to the new shard or not...doesn't really matter to me...whatever everyone else wants. Maybe even show a split score from each match.

[Kuroro]

mrdr your idea is complicated but could work,still i prefer disabled pvp for groups so a match would start with 3 vs 3 always and people joining would be filling the teams like a tetris.matches start with 6 players,maybe it should be 8 and there should not be able to queue more than 8 to avoid numeric difference,to explain it: a group joins and then a few players join by themself or with a group of 2 or 3,but another group should not be able to join so that match should start with 4 vs 4.but i dont pvp anymore so idgaf to be honest...if there are matches of 7 vs 1 still,i dont care,because i wont be part of it

[Mrdr]

but i dont pvp anymore so idgaf to be honest...if there are matches of 7 vs 1 still,i dont care,because i wont be part of it

So...this entire conversation you started is utterly pointless for you. It was interesting though...got people talking about something you care nothing about.