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    A supreme dc9 altho now i have 2 SN's may supreme them n give them a wirl..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Claydough View Post
    AR's are also alot more accurate too.
    i apologize for my delay in replying to you. i was forced to take a 24 hour vacation from the forums if you catch my drift.

    if we were discussing pulsers then you would be correct, however we are discussing vbi smgs. the average vbi smg is more accurate than the average vbi ar.

    due to the increased accuracy and fire rate you end up doing more damage with a vbi smg then you would with a vbi ar. that being said there are vbi ars that will out shoot smgs. i have a x3 dmg electric sumi that has a .05 bloom. very accurate, very powerful.

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    crazy 2 shots to the face with crit build in pvp with fowl play.... they made it probably the best pvp weapon with crit hip mastery and crit hip perk........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexthat View Post
    crazy 2 shots to the face with crit build in pvp with fowl play.... they made it probably the best pvp weapon with crit hip mastery and crit hip perk........
    i have to take mine out and give it a test run, however i have a problem with an ar doing better from the hip than while aiming. same reason i dont really like brs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick145 View Post
    i have to take mine out and give it a test run, however i have a problem with an ar doing better from the hip than while aiming. same reason i dont really like brs.
    even a stab sight on fowl play? reticle so small you actually have to aim unlike the spraying brs everyone likes

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick145 View Post
    i apologize for my delay in replying to you. i was forced to take a 24 hour vacation from the forums if you catch my drift.

    if we were discussing pulsers then you would be correct, however we are discussing vbi smgs. the average vbi smg is more accurate than the average vbi ar.

    due to the increased accuracy and fire rate you end up doing more damage with a vbi smg then you would with a vbi ar. that being said there are vbi ars that will out shoot smgs. i have a x3 dmg electric sumi that has a .05 bloom. very accurate, very powerful.
    Not after the AR acc buff

    That said, on console there probley little difference between the two crosshairs

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick145 View Post
    hence the fall off barrels. with them i get the fall off of an ar with the better fire rate of an smg
    At least a year and a half ago there was a big discussion on smg falloff so a large majority of players now weren't around for it so I thought it'd be worth mentioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claydough View Post
    Not after the AR acc buff

    That said, on console there probley little difference between the two crosshairs
    yes after the ar accuracy buff. like i said the average vbi ar vs the average vbi smg. if i am not mistaken (i will double check in the morning) the average bloom on an unmodded vbi ar is .25 or so vs the average bloom on a vbi smg being .10.

    i just pulled a purple vbi ar and a purple vbi smg from expos last night. i will check their respective blooms once i get up tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by konstantinov View Post
    At least a year and a half ago there was a big discussion on smg falloff so a large majority of players now weren't around for it so I thought it'd be worth mentioning.
    yes i remember this discussion. it was shortly before i took my 9month break that i got back from 6 months ago.

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    LMAO i use fowl play but sometimes pull out my 40 fire rate st smg i destroy with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilza pc user View Post
    LMAO i use fowl play but sometimes pull out my 40 fire rate st smg i destroy with it
    40 fire rate huh?

    Does that go with your 4x dmg surge bolter?

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