Ffs this is NOT about exploits. Its about doing coops the long way over n over to reap the rewards. Im over it now, cant believe the negativity about someone trying to do something LEGIT! Ignore this thread, this game just aint worth the headache from the "community". Do u all just jump all over anyones ideas n spread negative vibes all over the forum? Ive been reading alot on here n its the same people that seem to claim to want things better but tend to make things worse. No team, not worth the headache. Most likely taking a break and or dropping the game altogether. There are better games that actually work with people who actually like to play.
Yeah I'm sorry Bentu, but Hydro, Sevrin, & XRhino are all right here.
You stepped a bit out of line with your accusations towards Hydro.
"Yeah well it's not really wise to publicize it here, just hit up some friends or send some pms."
Automatically assuming he is looking to exploit when he said nothing about or in any way suggested exploiting.
"I'm not saying exploit runs will take place but if there's going to be any there's no point in waving a great big flag notifying Trion of the fact."
Then you say something after that contradicts what you just said about him NOT using exploits.
"No need to apologize at all and I understand your reasoning but once you have done a few legitimate runs you will inevitably do the exploit runs even if you personally don't want to as peer pressure will win out."
Just saying, you are basically telling him who he is and that he is/will be a exploiter.
It's like saying all the apples on the tree are rotten.
And it also says that every single person on the game is/will use exploits. Therefore, every single person would have to be banned.. lol.
Fact is, not everyone on this game is a bad-mouthed try-hard. Some actually enjoy the game and the work/time put into it. We're not all about "paying to win" or cheating the system, and could care less about such as it actually ruins the point of the game. How is that fun sitting there throwing dollars at the game to get items you want or cheating to get things faster then intended? Such an idea eludes me. If you don't enjoy the game as it was made, is cheating really gonna make you enjoy it any better? Time is spent better elsewhere if such is the case.
"You'd be surprised what people have posted on here over the last 3 years."
His post did not represent "exploitation" in any way. And such a response to what xRhino stated is basically insinuating that he might be one of those dumb people. Rude.
Really can't blame the guy for getting mad there at the end, he was even mature with his responses the first couple of times despite the inappropriate opposition towards him. You were basically slandering his reputation as a legit player in a part direct, part non-direct or suggestive, sort of way. He's just standing up for himself when no conflict was asked for in the OP nor any of his replies, but had it thrown at him anyway. One can support fully and with respect, his act of self-defense.
Besides.. the real ****** bags that cheat on there are typically in their own lil groups circle-jerking each other and wouldn't be posting on the forums looking for a group.
Just because he is new on the forums/game and you're a vet doesn't mean you know-it-all or are right all the time.
And Hyrdo if you are still looking for some help on the co-op runs, I can help you out bud.
Nobody has said/implied anything about as you were to put it, "stopping him from forming a group doing forge runs."
Although since it has been brought up. It would seem the dismaying and unfair accusations and what was implied, has led him to wanting to leave the game entirely..
"Most likely taking a break and or dropping the game altogether." ):
It was merely about proper treatment and conduct/respect for others, which appears tainted among the community that speaks so highly of itself.
That is all.
And no biggie Bentu, it happens, just try to have more courtesy for our forum newcomers.
~Thank you
I'll take notice of you when you say what you preach!
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...=1#post1940485
I already said "no biggie" Dentu, yet with each reply (not even asked for), I can only sense a form of resentment from you despite being found in the wrong.
Not exactly an admirable trait to have.
If you actually scroll to the beginning of that thread you have so kindly taken the time to link here in an attempt to taint my reputation. You will see just like Hydro here, my first post was attacked first after harmlessly trying to give some helpful logic to those unfortunately without it.. as it was not intended to any specific person(s), rather a general statement for anyone who could benefit from it.
My words in my first post were not vulgar or rude to anyone here, nor provocative.
Hostile comments towards myself were in no way asked for, but given regardless.
What I meant precisely by what I originally said is this game is 3 years old.. yes 3 years!
Yet some still can't seem to grasp that complaining constantly in their ear isn't going to fix anything faster and is nothing sort of uncivil.
So why would you want to bother to waste your time with such nonsense unless only to get off on hearing oneself talk?
If whomever can't process that by now after 3 years.. then something is clearly wrong there.
Can complain about "critting" for 3 years, and they are still there. Trion is quite aware already.
Really necessary to go on a 4th about it?
Or should we all just start making those completely mature "Why I left Defiance.." threads in an attempt to be clever and try to get Trion to fix things after having verbally assaulted them & their work.
What great manners to ask more from someone, when really you don't have to drop a dime into this game, yet more "free" stuff is expected like some sort of spoiled brat.
Just because the game is "F2P" doesn't mean it's actually "free" to keep the servers running for you.
They are people with lives and families to feed as well, the world does not revolve around one person's or more gameplay disfavors.
As I have said before if you have a problem with the game, then invest into something that isn't free. No one is forcing you to play this game, it is your choice solely.
Or keep on and on about everything that is wrong with the game & what needs to be improved, for another 3 years.. smh.
If this is you, then please by all means, go work for Trion and put the vision you have to work.
With regards to the specific post you have pointed out.
Was my response to such adolescent behavior mature? Certainly not. As I have made no claims that it was mature.
Nor was my vulgar response of defense inapt according to the "code of conduct." Nor was my oppressor's behavior before or after, the fact.
There, I have willfully admitted where I was wrong, however you are still being reluctant with your own faults on this thread. In doing so, you have only dodged what was been brought to light & now are using me as some sort of cushion to corroborate your responses.
As for my previous actions, while I am generally a patient person, I don't have the patience like Hyrdo to put up with foul-mouthed rug rats whom feel they can come at me freely without some sort of retribution being enacted upon them.
I take no pity in giving them a taste of their own medicine, in fact it is well-deserved.
Let that be a lesson which clearly was not taught in younger years with a belt.
If anything, hopefully they learn not to behave like rotten children.
Just because someone has played a long time or holds a high prestige, it makes no difference. Gives no such entitlement to openly throw around such ill-mannered comments directly at someone at random. Nor is it advisable in playing the victim card when you started something in the first place because you did not like being talked back to after starting such a predicament yourself. You're gonna get rolled over regardless.
But must praise Hydro for having such the patience to deal with all the inappropriate hostility thrown at him when it was not asked for in any form. He put up with it for a good while (without any form of help/action from the moderators here on the forums I might add, he stood his ground) and is a bigger man than most here. I was certain there was a precise code of conduct to be upheld here on these forums by the community. Do the rules need to be more strictly enforced upon such violators?
And if anything, your comments on this thread towards Hyrdo were in fact provocative in starting such conflict with him.
If you must respond again, I only ask that you show the whole picture instead of only half of it or the side the supports your argument.
If you were trying to say practice what I just "preached." That argument is invalid, in the case of self-defense. If I had been the "aggressor" then it would be different.
If you wanna say, was my response of self-defense mature? Perhaps not. But appropriate? Of course. One should always stand up for thyself once attacked without valid cause.
So thank you for bringing that to the light, by showing a thread in which I was attacked without reason as well as trying to use it as a crutch to support your claim. You have only further proven what Hydro has said:
"This game just ain't worth the headache from the "community"."
"Do u all just jump all over anyones ideas n spread negative vibes all over the forum?"
"I've been reading alot on here n it's the same people that seem to claim to want things better but tend to make things worse."
"There are better games that work with people who actually like to play."
Hydro has the hit nail on the head.
And lastly, it seems as though we are getting away from the subject at hand here.
"I'll take notice of you when you say what you preach!"
Does that really excuse/validate your actions of verbal discourtesies towards Mr. Hydro here?
I think not.
If you have anymore gripes, I ask kindly that you do so in a polite & adult manner.
Thank you!