Questions about testing on PTS (Yeah some ION related stuff in here)

[Bentu]

Hey All,

I would be happy to comment on this. We strive very hard to keep everything as balanced in game as we can. The EXL shields were implemented several years ago, and was also a very limited time item. The main issue with shields that are being referenced here, is the ease at which they are obtained, and in regards specifically to the Piper shield, an actual bug in the capacity calculation. Defiance is a game where you are fighting to obtain the best weapons and items in the game. When those best items are awarded for easy pursuits or missions, there is no feeling of accomplishment, which leads to no feeling of reward.

We are always looking at balance, and one of the balance topics we absolutely want to touch on is shields. It is on our list, and absolutely something we want to get in line. But rather than lower the capacity on an already existing rare shield, we would prefer to introduce new shields, that drop in the world rather than from pursuits or missions, that are on par. Keep an eye out for changes like this in the future.

This must be right because it made no sense to me and didn't address the op questions.

[Kuroro]

We strive very hard to keep everything as balanced in game as we can.

I am a pvper and I have a supreme darkest hour,I´ll tell you 2 things to make pvp more balanced:

1-People using shields with the same capacity (this is why your quote is contradictory,Ion insulator has a bit more capacity than other shields but his recharge time sucks,I am a pvper and I know what I say,Ion insulator would have been useful just against 1 enemy,after someone quits a part of the shield you´d be in disavantage having equiped Ion insulator)

2-Its known that it was a pvp nerf so I am gonna tell you the biggest disbalance in pvp: people joining in groups to have numerical advantage.If a group joins a match since the beggining it becomes 2 vs 4 (for example),if a group joins a started match its team has 4 more players than the other team.If you want a balance disable pvp for groups instead of nerfing almost useless shields

Another thing,the complainers here on forums are a minority,there are thousands of players in game that do not come here on forums asking for nerfs and they really know what should be changed,as I am telling you how the facts are

[Chump Norris]

Hey All,

I would be happy to comment on this. We strive very hard to keep everything as balanced in game as we can. The EXL shields were implemented several years ago, and was also a very limited time item. The main issue with shields that are being referenced here, is the ease at which they are obtained, and in regards specifically to the Piper shield, an actual bug in the capacity calculation. Defiance is a game where you are fighting to obtain the best weapons and items in the game. When those best items are awarded for easy pursuits or missions, there is no feeling of accomplishment, which leads to no feeling of reward.

Ok so it boils down to it being to easy for everyone to get a decent shield and not that it was OP? People would still have chased for Expo SUP shields btw you just listened to non PTS testing DH owner crap telling you this was the only shield people would use. Wanna know the feeling of no reward? Chase down the minors for the Ion pursuit and check out your sweet new shield.

We are always looking at balance, and one of the balance topics we absolutely want to touch on is shields. It is on our list, and absolutely something we want to get in line. But rather than lower the capacity on an already existing rare shield, we would prefer to introduce new shields, that drop in the world rather than from pursuits or missions, that are on par. Keep an eye out for changes like this in the future.

Yep so again wasn't actually about being OP like we were told, it was just to easy for people to get a decent shield. Again we already have good shields in game right now to chase for in EXPO that don't drop from pursuits or missions....but anyway buddy I guess i'll keep my eyes on the next bundles or boxes so I can see the new shield you guys working on.

[Chump Norris]

I'm just going to say this right here since this will be deleted by you guys..

Ion being nerfed because it was to easy to get and not the original reason you told us about it being OP is hopefully the last lie you tell us, bad start for a new creative lead..

[W84IT]

I'm just going to say this right here since this will be deleted by you guys..

Ion being nerfed because it was to easy to get and not the original reason you told us about it being OP is hopefully the last lie you tell us, bad start for a new creative lead..

We get your frustration,you've been saying for the last few days what most of us think and feel,that maybe the only reason to play this event got destroyed by 1 or 2 individuals crying nerf....coincidence or not

[Mrdr]

Hey All,

I would be happy to comment on this. We strive very hard to keep everything as balanced in game as we can. The EXL shields were implemented several years ago, and was also a very limited time item. The main issue with shields that are being referenced here, is the ease at which they are obtained, and in regards specifically to the Piper shield, an actual bug in the capacity calculation. Defiance is a game where you are fighting to obtain the best weapons and items in the game. When those best items are awarded for easy pursuits or missions, there is no feeling of accomplishment, which leads to no feeling of reward.

We are always looking at balance, and one of the balance topics we absolutely want to touch on is shields. It is on our list, and absolutely something we want to get in line. But rather than lower the capacity on an already existing rare shield, we would prefer to introduce new shields, that drop in the world rather than from pursuits or missions, that are on par. Keep an eye out for changes like this in the future.

Have to call BS here. You say you nerfed it and the piper shields (which originally were working as intended but somehow that disappeared) due to no one feeling a sense of accomplishment or reward are you even listening to your customers? We've been saying for over a year how incredibly ****ed up the RNG is, how we don't buy the whole "longer more fulfilling chase" line, and how effort in this game NEVER yields a reward OR a sense of accomplishment. How many well respected vets have moved on because of this? Always looking at balance? Maybe balancing Trion's check book because it sure isn't the reward to effort ratio unless it's in the favor of the bitstore.

Do you even Defiance bro?

[Chump Norris]

Have to call BS here. You say you nerfed it and the piper shields (which originally were working as intended but somehow that disappeared) due to no one feeling a sense of accomplishment or reward are you even listening to your customers? We've been saying for over a year how incredibly ****ed up the RNG is, how we don't buy the whole "longer more fulfilling chase" line, and how effort in this game NEVER yields a reward OR a sense of accomplishment. How many well respected vets have more vex on because of this? Always looking at balance? Maybe balancing Trion's check book because it sure isn't the reward to effort ratio unless it's in the favor of the bitstore.

Do you even Defiance bro?

lol and it wasn't even about these chase when he first addressed the nerf..

Hey All,

A "nerf" would constitute something that was changed after it went live. In this case, we put a shield on PTS for testing, and found in that testing that it was a bit too strong comparatively. The final product that you see on live is where we intend to keep it, and if that changes we will be sure to let everyone know!

As always, remember that PTS content is never final, and can change prior to Live release.

I had higher hopes for Creative Lead Destromathe..

[Ea Rapture]

I bought and traded and was given alot of the items I have collected over time. Does this mean that I should get a dmg nerf to all of those because I didn't really work for them, only purchased and traded?

I think this makes sense. Hell, RnG doesn't mean you earned anything either! You just got a winning lotto ticket. Lets nerf everything since nothing was technically earned. In fact, the only things earned were pursuit based rewards because you had an actual objective or task you needed to complete.

[Ea Rapture]

I am a pvper and I have a supreme darkest hour,I´ll tell you 2 things to make pvp more balanced:

1-People using shields with the same capacity (this is why your quote is contradictory,Ion insulator has a bit more capacity than other shields but his recharge time sucks,I am a pvper and I know what I say,Ion insulator would have been useful just against 1 enemy,after someone quits a part of the shield you´d be in disavantage having equiped Ion insulator)

2-Its known that it was a pvp nerf so I am gonna tell you the biggest disbalance in pvp: people joining in groups to have numerical advantage.If a group joins a match since the beggining it becomes 2 vs 4 (for example),if a group joins a started match its team has 4 more players than the other team.If you want a balance disable pvp for groups instead of nerfing almost useless shields

Another thing,the complainers here on forums are a minority,there are thousands of players in game that do not come here on forums asking for nerfs and they really know what should be changed,as I am telling you how the facts are

How are groups cheating in PvP? This is an entirely coop game. Its in the genre name in fact. Its an MMO.

Also, there are pursuits surrounding group play in PvP. Are you saying it's cheating to complete pursuits and raise your ego?

Is it cheating to get attacked by more than one person? No. This isn't a medieval duel where you have one opponent. This is an online game where there are two teams playing Against each other. They can work together to kill you. It's the whole point of being on a team.

Anyhow, having Shields with different caps is all a part of defiance. We're all different egos and our gear is different egos. Every player will be different. Why ion insulator got nerfed is beyond me, but they won't put it back, just like they wouldn't add syphon dets to the game even though they were on pts.

[Kuroro]

How are groups cheating in PvP? This is an entirely coop game. Its in the genre name in fact. Its an MMO.

I never said it is a cheat, it is a broken part of matchmaking unbalancing teams