You know what gun is OP? The surge bolter.

[Skiller115]

Nope it's exactly that part I was referring to. You clearly missed the part that the head is indeed included in any part of the body and that he didn't exclude the head in his statement. As mentioned several guns can one shot the head--a specific part of the body. Had he said "any gun that can one shot kill someone in any part of the body other than the head is OP" then you might actually have a point here. But if we're going to analyze the OPness of guns then we should analyze the OPness of loadouts and rigs. The combination of perks, rigs/chips, and shields can be just as OP as a gun, do you disagree?



So your counterpoint to the facts I stated (crits in pvp are buffed compared to pve and that a good sniper or wolfhound variant will one shot you if a headshot if they land a headshot) is that surge bolters blah blah blah? Way to avoid the topic in my post to push your own agenda.

As for your 100% to 0 with a surge in the kill feed, you're just repeating what you've already said throughout this thread. You'll also notice (if you read my post that is) that that's exactly what happened to me, but with a BR. As I already said, "**** happens in pvp..."

Are you really that dense? What did you think he meant by saying one hit anywhere one the body. Now you're just arguing just for the sake of arguing. Do you always have to be politically correct? Oh he say anywhere so that must mean headshots Yeah all you do is nit pick around the main issue and then go about a tangent like "oh my nerf all guns that kill me" All you do is defend what is OP, broken, and obvious griefing while putting it all under the guise of having "fun"
Now for the one hit BR part maybe he hit you with a frag and the shot is what finished you or a cloaked surger brought you down to less than 5% health and you didn't notice because it was a two piece that happened too quickly.

[The Lady]

Are you really that dense? What did you think he meant by saying one hit anywhere one the body. Now you're just arguing just for the sake of arguing. Do you always have to be politically correct? Oh he say anywhere so that must mean headshots Yeah all you do is nit pick around the main issue and then go about a tangent like "oh my nerf all guns that kill me" All you do is defend what is OP, broken, and obvious griefing while putting it all under the guise of having "fun"
Now for the one hit BR part maybe he hit you with a frag and the shot is what finished you or a cloaked surger brought you down to less than 5% health and you didn't notice because it was a two piece that happened too quickly.

I'm still guessing you use blur.

[Skiller115]

I'm still guessing you use blur.

I almost never use blur just overcharge. If I do use blur it's just with a sword. Also I'm not fighting idiots that stand in the middle of the map with cloak. I'm fighting people that has some clue as to hide and cloak, with teammates as a good distraction.

[Mrdr]

Are you really that dense? What did you think he meant by saying one hit anywhere one the body. Now you're just arguing just for the sake of arguing. Do you always have to be politically correct? Oh he say anywhere so that must mean headshots Yeah all you do is nit pick around the main issue and then go about a tangent like "oh my nerf all guns that kill me" All you do is defend what is OP, broken, and obvious griefing while putting it all under the guise of having "fun"
Now for the one hit BR part maybe he hit you with a frag and the shot is what finished you or a cloaked surger brought you down to less than 5% health and you didn't notice because it was a two piece that happened too quickly.

LOL you are incapable of any meaningful debate. You resort to name calling and subject/issue skirting and consider that proof that your opinion is a fact. Are you afraid to answer my question out of fear that it will expose the real OPness of stacking rig/chip, perks, and synergies? So you love your near invincible loadout so much as to draw attention away from it and redirect the FUD to a single weapon in this game?

Nevermind you won't answer it anyway...you'll just call me another name and use another adjective in attempt to make yourself feel better and self righteous. Have fun with that.

[The Lady]

I almost never use blur just overcharge. If I do use blur it's just with a sword. Also I'm not fighting idiots that stand in the middle of the map with cloak. I'm fighting people that has some clue as to hide and cloak, with teammates as a good distraction.

I see sword user, that explains it all.

[Skiller115]

LOL you are incapable of any meaningful debate. You resort to name calling and subject/issue skirting and consider that proof that your opinion is a fact. Are you afraid to answer my question out of fear that it will expose the real OPness of stacking rig/chip, perks, and synergies? So you love your near invincible loadout so much as to draw attention away from it and redirect the FUD to a single weapon in this game?

Nevermind you won't answer it anyway...you'll just call me another name and use another adjective in attempt to make yourself feel better and self righteous. Have fun with that.

Lol you know what whatever you can dream up! There is nothing OP by using perks and chips as designed and getting one shot without a crit is how the surge bolter works I'm done with you by the way goodbye.

[Skiller115]

I see sword user, that explains it all.

Lol whatever mate just because I use a sword like once a week doesn't make me a "sword user" all the time.

[The Lady]

Lol whatever mate just because I use a sword like once a week doesn't make me a "sword user" all the time.

With the reach on the sword, a shot to the head is the best counter, and yes using it once a week makes you a sword user. Blur has been glitches forever now, so you are complaining that one weapon can even that out so therefore it is op. Didn't see you complain about the shotgun used in the video that was one shotting people from across the map even said you had one that did more. Again based on that your just mad because one person or a group is shooting with a surge.

[Skiller115]

With the reach on the sword, a shot to the head is the best counter, and yes using it once a week makes you a sword user. Blur has been glitches forever now, so you are complaining that one weapon can even that out so therefore it is op. Didn't see you complain about the shotgun used in the video that was one shotting people from across the map even said you had one that did more. Again based on that your just mad because one person or a group is shooting with a surge.

There is nothing even about a surge bolter though you guys are ignoring the fact that you don't even have to have the crosshairs directly on the target to score a hit while all other weapons you have to actually aim onto the target to score a hit! Now I already offered a suggestion that Trion makes the bullet normal size for the surge but no you guys only want your one hit wonder that is even easier to aim than all other snipers.

Also what is so glitchy about blur like I don't really use it and I don't see anything wrong blur users die the same Maybe you need to Learn to aim? That surge bolter has been holding your hand to much.

[Mrdr]

There is nothing even about a surge bolter though you guys are ignoring the fact that you don't even have to have the crosshairs directly on the target to score a hit while all other weapons you have to actually aim onto the target to score a hit!

Except for swords, but those work in your favor so...As designed.

Also what is so glitchy about blur like I don't really use it and I don't see anything wrong blur users die the same Maybe you need to Learn to aim? That surge bolter has been holding your hand to much.

Guess you haven't been reading about the blur glitch in the last several months.