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    Quote Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Glad to hear that most people here are pulling Jackpots for this event! We are currently looking into why the missing string is happening, but you can determine a Jackpot came from Karma, if it was NOT included in the event rewards screen, and 15 seconds later it will show up in your chat window. I hope that clears some things up.

    As always, with any random system, some players are bound to get more lucky that others. The main idea behind Karma is, that if you are getting unlucky, eventually you will get there. You just have to be patient. I am extra happy to hear you got a jackpot Bentu, as I know you have been an advocate of bad RNG. Keep playing, and you will be rewarded! Thanks for all the updates everyone.
    That being the case my jp was not a karma jp then.
    As for being an advocate of the bad rng theory, I am one of the conspiracies lol.
    On xbox I have 69 days played on my main eu toon and 102 days on my main na toon.
    I've not checked the time played on my main ps3 na toon but it was created approximately a year ago but the rng for that character is ten fold better compared to the other two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Glad to hear that most people here are pulling Jackpots for this event! We are currently looking into why the missing string is happening, but you can determine a Jackpot came from Karma, if it was NOT included in the event rewards screen, and 15 seconds later it will show up in your chat window. I hope that clears some things up.

    As always, with any random system, some players are bound to get more lucky that others. The main idea behind Karma is, that if you are getting unlucky, eventually you will get there. You just have to be patient. I am extra happy to hear you got a jackpot Bentu, as I know you have been an advocate of bad RNG. Keep playing, and you will be rewarded! Thanks for all the updates everyone.
    Thanks for the explanation. I exited out of my rewards screen quickly so I had no way of knowing which jackpot roll was responsible. I only noticed that I received one because I went into my chat screen to ask a friend a something but the reward message didn't indicate whether it was due to Karma or not.

    You may want to update the message that is displayed in the chat window to differentiate between the rolls. It would be less vague than "after 10-15 seconds you magically receive a jackpot", serve as positive reinforcement that the money that we are spending on the Patron Pass is worth it, and advertise to people that don't have a Pass that they may be missing out on something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1p View Post
    Thanks for the explanation. I exited out of my rewards screen quickly so I had no way of knowing which jackpot roll was responsible. I only noticed that I received one because I went into my chat screen to ask a friend a something but the reward message didn't indicate whether it was due to Karma or not.

    You may want to update the message that is displayed in the chat window to differentiate between the rolls. It would be less vague than "after 10-15 seconds you magically receive a jackpot", serve as positive reinforcement that the money that we are spending on the Patron Pass is worth it, and advertise to people that don't have a Pass that they may be missing out on something.
    We will check this out and see if there is anything we can do to differentiate the messaging. Thanks for the suggestion!

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    And on the 7th day he got a Cosmic Champion.

    It must of been Karma as it's the only gun I wanted.

    Edit. EU xbox main toon.

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    Nvf week one/ 7 day drop summary pc/na

    EVENTS COMPLETED: 194

    RARE WEAPONS: 91
    EPIC WEAPONS: 95
    LEGENDARY WEAPONS: 8
    JACKPOT DROPS: 0
    KARMA DROPS: 2

    RARE MODS: 153
    EPIC MODS: 42 (1 in weekly box)
    LEGENDARY MODS: 1 (weekly box drop)

    NOTES:

    *Assault Rifle mod drop rate increased to close to 50% after hotfix...thank you for listening DEVS, got the feeling you guys were blowing us off on this issue during the livestream.

    *KARMA jackpot shows up on screen as a pop with event rewards, resembles pop for legendary Volge rifle at the end of sieges. It will come and go if your not paying attention...


    People need to understand that Legendary items are just that LEGENDARY, not something that you can go to your local Walmart or Big box store and pick up. For example, a Sharps rifle would be considered legendary. Most gun historians/collectors know about the Sharps but few have seen one let alone own one. Jackpots even more so; one of Billy the Kid's revolver's would be on par with a jackpot. Now these people with multiple Jackpots, often of the same kind is an entirely different issue for an entirely different type of thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordofbattle View Post
    People need to understand that Legendary items are just that LEGENDARY, not something that you can go to your local Walmart or Big box store and pick up. For example, a Sharps rifle would be considered legendary. Most gun historians/collectors know about the Sharps but few have seen one let alone own one. Jackpots even more so; one of Billy the Kid's revolver's would be on par with a jackpot. Now these people with multiple Jackpots, often of the same kind is an entirely different issue for an entirely different type of thread.
    In gaming terms I am quite aware of what constitutes a rare find.
    I've put more time into Borderlands1 than Defiance and nearly half of that would of been farming Crawmerax.

    Those Pealessance weapons I got from him are highly prized by me as a lot of time and effort went into getting them.
    I didn't buy a patron pass from gearbox for the chance to pull one which in any case is advertised as a certainty.
    Something else should be noted and that's several people are still getting multiples Karma or not and others are still getting none or very little despite the pp.

    On a side note, I didn't get the 0 string missing message with this one either and it wasn't on the reward screen.

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    start of week two

    and so begins week two of the event and no jackpot drops to my name and looks like this dry spell is going to last for a while seeing as my last good drop was in the original rad sol event fingers crossed i get one soon

    I used to be a PVPer like you then i took a surge bolter to the knee

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    Main:
    Oj Bio AR with oj reload roll
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    nanoless LMG with oj reload roll

    Bought a Beta6 for 2mil which was the main jp I was interested in anyways
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Glad to hear that most people here are pulling Jackpots for this event! We are currently looking into why the missing string is happening, but you can determine a Jackpot came from Karma, if it was NOT included in the event rewards screen, and 15 seconds later it will show up in your chat window. I hope that clears some things up. *snip*
    So, Karma is for all players not only patrons?
    Because, exactly what you have said happened to my husband. And he is NOT a patron!
    Here the Screenshots, the first shows the "Purchase Complete"-message at reward screen. No Weapon and Mod.


    http://imgur.com/a/CPDJL

    The second shows the chat + time stamp.
    Normally, if your inventory is full, it says:
    You received weapon xy....
    you received mod xy.....
    you got rewards from arkfall....

    Here its different, it says (i translated 'cause screen is german):
    00:23:29 You received commando scope III but your inventory is full.....
    00:23:29 You got rewards from Event Neo Votanis Freebooters for your score......
    00:23:41 You received zodiac zealot but your inventory is full......


    http://imgur.com/a/OKxQE

    The white message with the string missing comes only to other players nearby. I had see this message several times in the last days for friends and random players. This white message is every time ~10-15s after an arkfall ends. If a friend get something it says in yellow: Legendary! Friend just got a Weapon (or something idk how it is exactly in english) and its every time in the same second at arkfall ends, not 10-15s later.

    I think karma is broken. You have to look into this!

    Edit: I got a Karma drop on my toon Taja ria, i'm not a patron. Please look, she got only a T4 mod in reward screen and the purchase complete message and after 10s she got the cosmic champion in her inventory.


    http://imgur.com/a/dFQKr


    http://imgur.com/a/bo092

    btw I think it's great that karma is now for all players.
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    I pulled all the helmets and titles then pulled my first which was the Cosmic, then the next morning I pulled my second which was the zodiac. but only one OJ which was from weekly, I filled my invent twice and claims to 115 3 times so far.
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