Karma. What it is, how it works.

[clay marrow]

pulled a B6 with karma yesterday.... it works!!!!

[xXxDSMer]

yeah.. starting to have my suspicions.

I've been on as long each day as several other clanmates, hit as many arkfalls, and watched them get at least 3 jackpots - while I'm still at zero.

Oh & I've had a patron pass the entire event aside from about an hour lapse yesterday.

[Smokey Black]

Pulled a zodiac with karma it does work.

[Ronin9572]

Pulled a zodiac with karma it does work.

Glad to hear of ppl getting these! Alot of ppl are running around complaining about karma and than come to find out they're not Patrons. So that's why their not receiving one, lol.

[Rhettro]

Karma is definitely working. I have seen a significant increase in JP drops.

[FreshCakes]

Had to dig deep for this, wish it was on the front oage. Thank you for the information!

[Bentu]

In the last few days we've gotten a lot of new information about the karma system, spread across different threads. Here is the collective of that information, summarized and with sources.

What is it?
-Karma, is a "get around" from RNG, granting a jackpot.
-Karma is patron only.

How does it work?
-Karma collects from participating in Holiday/Special Arkfalls, and purchasing their Synergy Boxes.
-Accumulates across events.
-Getting a jackpot resets your Karma.
-There is no visible way to check your Karma, the item will either be sent to claims, or appear in your inventory seconds later.
-Jackpots from elite lockboxes doesn't reset Karma.

And then changed half of what was said with this.

Hey All,

I wanted to clarify a statement I said earlier in this thread that was incorrect. When looting a jackpot, both the standard jackpot roll and the Karma roll appear 15 seconds after the event ends. When we created the Paradise Karma system, we had to move all jackpot wins to this type of distribution. Currently, there is no way for players to discern whether their jackpot was a Karma win, or a regular jackpot win. However, the overall amount of jackpots that players are receiving should be substantially higher, and we are definitely seeing that across the board.

I do apologize for this confusion, and I hope that this clears up some concerns players had of non-patrons getting karma jackpots. Thanks again for all the feedback on the system, and we hope you continue to get good drops!

Having a system where you cannot differentiate between a normal rng drop and a Karma reward is plain and simple wrong.
We know why it's done this way so we're not able to know when and how to farm the event and let's be honest it must be reasonably easy to do if they've had to hide how it works.

Also what wasn't explained is why people are getting karma drops straight off the bus when the event started.
This lead some to believe that the karma has an rng element where it shouldn't as they stated that the more you play the more you'll get.

Well if people did get karma rewards straight away then there's something wrong with that also.

Now we also have multiple rewards for zz and beta jps.
Yes I've heard of multiple cc and gg drops but from the rewards I've seen in chat zz and beta far exceed them.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

And then changed half of what was said with this.



Having a system where you cannot differentiate between a normal rng drop and a Karma reward is plain and simple wrong.
We know why it's done this way so we're not able to know when and how to farm the event and let's be honest it must be reasonably easy to do if they've had to hide how it works.

Also what wasn't explained is why people are getting karma drops straight off the bus when the event started.
This lead some to believe that the karma has an rng element where it shouldn't as they stated that the more you play the more you'll get.

Well if people did get karma rewards straight away then there's something wrong with that also.

Now we also have multiple rewards for zz and beta jps.
Yes I've heard of multiple cc and gg drops but from the rewards I've seen in chat zz and beta far exceed them.

i have see more aa and zz drop more than anything

[doctordabs]

Karma works for arkfalls - it doesn't work for bitstore boxes, which I was lead to believe from reading destro's post... maybe i misunderstood it but i thought you had one karma wheel for event AF's and one for Bitstore event boxes - so getting a karma drop from majors wouldn't reset your bitstore karma wheel... yet i've spent over 150, .. closer to 200usd on THIS event (let alone the ****-load of money spent over the last few years), and still no bitstore box jackpot...

[Destromathe]

Karma works for arkfalls - it doesn't work for bitstore boxes, which I was lead to believe from reading destro's post... maybe i misunderstood it but i thought you had one karma wheel for event AF's and one for Bitstore event boxes - so getting a karma drop from majors wouldn't reset your bitstore karma wheel... yet i've spent over 150, .. closer to 200usd on THIS event (let alone the ****-load of money spent over the last few years), and still no bitstore box jackpot...

You are correct doctordabs, there are two separate systems for lock boxes and events. I have checked on your account, and I do see that you have currently accumulated karma that will help any future purchases. I am sorry to hear about the bad luck, but I can assure you that every lock box from here on out will have greatly increased chances to drop a jackpot. This will also roll into the next event if you wanted.

Rest assured that winning a jackpot in an event does NOT reset your lock box karma.