Concerns about Co-Op maps

[Tilarta]

In the past, I have assumed that I could never get a Co-Op match to launch because I wasn't high enough to enter Expert and that's what everyone was doing.
Now that I can, it doesn't seem to have changed anything.
I have to prompt players to enter the match.
I don't have to do that in my other mmo that uses a public matchmaking system.

This is a concern because 7th Legion Reputation asks me to complete these maps for the weekly reward.

I have bad history with an mmo where everyone did speedrunning on Co-Op maps.
This appears to be reoccuring in Defiance.
That they just run through the map as fast as they can without waiting for the others.
I even saw one group member vote to kick another group member because they were 3 meters behind the others and insulted them as well.
It's like they're running on mental autopilot, in two specific cases, I asked that they not kill a specific enemy because Snake Bite II pursuit mandated I defeat them, they shot the enemies anyway!

Also, there is a Pursuit that requires finding 3 data recorders on these maps.
So far, I haven't had the chance to slow down and really look for them.
And the Cerberus pursuit, well, they keep making that one fail too!

I assume all of the above means that it's best to find a group of friends to do this with, as it seems I can't meet my Pursuit goals with randoms.

[WhiteStrike]

In the past, I have assumed that I could never get a Co-Op match to launch because I wasn't high enough to enter Expert and that's what everyone was doing.
Now that I can, it doesn't seem to have changed anything.
I have to prompt players to enter the match.
I don't have to do that in my other mmo that uses a public matchmaking system.

This is a concern because 7th Legion Reputation asks me to complete these maps for the weekly reward.

I have bad history with an mmo where everyone did speedrunning on Co-Op maps.
This appears to be reoccuring in Defiance.
That they just run through the map as fast as they can without waiting for the others.
I even saw one group member vote to kick another group member because they were 3 meters behind the others and insulted them as well.
It's like they're running on mental autopilot, in two specific cases, I asked that they not kill a specific enemy because Snake Bite II pursuit mandated I defeat them, they shot the enemies anyway!

Also, there is a Pursuit that requires finding 3 data recorders on these maps.
So far, I haven't had the chance to slow down and really look for them.
And the Cerberus pursuit, well, they keep making that one fail too!

I assume all of the above means that it's best to find a group of friends to do this with, as it seems I can't meet my Pursuit goals with randoms.

Rule of thumb: never expect PUGs to be helpful in your particular matters. They are simply there to finish their contracts. If you must do Pursuits, it's best if you group with friends.

[LOOKxATxTHISxI]

No reason that these can't be completed on your own. Ridiculous to have to beg others to que just to complete daily activities. You can do everything else solo in this game no reason these co ops should still be locked behind ques.

Sometimes I just want to level up guns these expert co ops would be a great place to do it. Then the ADHD crowd can't complain about the slow pokes. I also don't want to watch the cut scenes that I have seen for the past 3 years that some people love to sit thru

[D34d10ck]

I have to say that I completely agree I've sat six hours before to do chimera daily and I paid for that dlc

[BarrySciFi]

I've been saying that the co-ops should be soloable for over 3 years now. Trion has said on many occasions that they aren't going to make these maps soloable. I think Trion should reevaluate this position. The co-op maps are quite fun to do solo, and we shouldn't need to wait around for 3 other people to queue up. If Trion is concerned about arkforge and key farming, simply make the co-op maps not grant either arkforge or keys after a few playthroughs in a 24 hour period. You could get everything else (experience, loot) except for arkforge and keys. Don't see any problem with this...

[NullWolf]

If Trion is concerned about arkforge and key farming, simply make the co-op maps not grant either arkforge or keys after a few playthroughs in a 24 hour period.

There is already an arkforge cap in place and coops aren't anywhere near a great key farming place.
To alter the rewards for the worse any further would eat into their bottom line with people paying for patron.

The main issue eating into people queing for anything are the nonstop events, it eats into people doing coops, expos, and pvp aside from groups getting together to do their dailies.

Best offer of advice for OP is find a good helpful clan and join them, it makes a world of difference in the enjoyment of this game

[Bentu]

There is already an arkforge cap in place and coops aren't anywhere near a great key farming place.
To alter the rewards for the worse any further would eat into their bottom line with people paying for patron.

The main issue eating into people queing for anything are the nonstop events, it eats into people doing coops, expos, and pvp aside from groups getting together to do their dailies.

Best offer of advice for OP is find a good helpful clan and join them, it makes a world of difference in the enjoyment of this game

Yep I agree, op find a good helpful clan, there's plenty on the pc and I also agree that it wouldn't hurt for the co op maps to be started by a solo player, expos are and people can just join.

[Tilarta]

No reason that these can't be completed on your own.

There are three reasons this can't be completed on your own, the match won't start with just one player queued for it!

And please drop the clan talk, all that achieves is to derail the thread.
If I wanted to discuss clans, I would have made a seperate thread for that topic.

[Spike Chaos]

Get yourself a good clan or good friends. Or, ask in zone if anyone wants to go find data recorders and complete co op pursuits etc. Then google the data recorders online and you'll be done with it in no time. Or just go and find them but just get yourself a good group of players, don't just join a random co op. Solo co ops would be awesome though I agree.

[Johnny Gatt]

In the early days of this game, the glitchers were voted out. Now it is the opposite.

It is very noticeable if iols is the daily chimera contract. If you are going in random, you need to stay on the dock or the glitch runners will vote kick you. When they decoy to end with their mm glitch, you have 3 seconds to blow yourself up and extract to them, or you will get vote kicked.

The best advice i can give is to get a full group together prior to queuing up for co-ops. It will keep you from getting vote kicked, and guarantee that the co-op will start for you.