Karma For Non Patron Players

[Cygnus]

I dont understand why devs think we shouldnt be able to differentiate between a Karma drop and a regular drop. This is the opposite of being transparent. Karma drops should different so pp holders can know whether or not they are benefiting from pp. Other wise it feels jusjust like RnG lottery scam.

[Bentu]

I am amazed at how much negativity some people direct at this game and yet continue to be here day after day. I thought the entire point of playing was to have to have some fun. Seems like it's become a very negative obsession for some folks which is unfortunate.

I don't know if I fall into this category or you or others feel that I do but any posts or remarks I make that may seem negative are born from sheer frustration at the state of the game and how I personally feel we the players are treated.
My frustration is mainly directed at bugs/glitches that still remain from day one and the bugs that are continually being introduced with each new event, I don't think we've had an event this year that hasn't had a bug and while the devs are trying to fix those the old ones aren't being addressed.
I'm not saying that the current devs aren't capable because they're as they fix the current ones but Trion need to invest some money back into this game maybe by hiring some more faces to sort out the old bugs and to take a load off our current overworked Dev team.

I've been watching the past live streams looking for some information and one thing I've noticed in the faces of the team and that's they look very tired, they actually look like they could do with a good day out at the beach to catch some rays and charge their batteries.

I try to play every day but the real world intrudes at times but I still have over 200 Days in game play across my main toons.

If anyone wants to check their own time played type in chat /time played but you must have settings turned on.

On topic I'm thankful for the extra weeks pp its just a shame it's only a two week event.

[Destromathe]

I dont understand why devs think we shouldnt be able to differentiate between a Karma drop and a regular drop. This is the opposite of being transparent. Karma drops should different so pp holders can know whether or not they are benefiting from pp. Other wise it feels jusjust like RnG lottery scam.

Hi Cygnus,

I have addressed this concern in other threads, but I would be happy to elaborate more here. In order for the Karma system to work, technically speaking, we had to tie rewarding normal jackpots with karma jackpots, because of how we reward them in game. There is a ton of math and technical specifications that work behind the scenes in order for Karma to make sense, and currently we do not have any way of presenting this information to the player.

There is currently no good system in place to give players that wow factor of "Hey, you got a karma drop", and implementing something like that takes time, as it involves work with the UI. Because we currently have no clear indicator for this, we do not show the difference at all. The reasoning for that is because there is no clear indicator, all players are left with is speculation, and a system that is clearly not perfect, telling them what kind of drop they got.

Previously, players were assuming that if they merely did not get a weapon in the rewards screen, that meant they got a normal jackpot. This is simply not the case 100% of the time, and can lead to some confusion and eventually anger if players feel cheated based on false information. Until we can 100% put a system in place that will show players exactly when they get a Karma drop, we will not differentiate between the two. In this case, half way is not better.

[Bentu]

Hi Cygnus,

I have addressed this concern in other threads, but I would be happy to elaborate more here. In order for the Karma system to work, technically speaking, we had to tie rewarding normal jackpots with karma jackpots, because of how we reward them in game. There is a ton of math and technical specifications that work behind the scenes in order for Karma to make sense, and currently we do not have any way of presenting this information to the player.

There is currently no good system in place to give players that wow factor of "Hey, you got a karma drop", and implementing something like that takes time, as it involves work with the UI. Because we currently have no clear indicator for this, we do not show the difference at all. The reasoning for that is because there is no clear indicator, all players are left with is speculation, and a system that is clearly not perfect, telling them what kind of drop they got.

Previously, players were assuming that if they merely did not get a weapon in the rewards screen, that meant they got a normal jackpot. This is simply not the case 100% of the time, and can lead to some confusion and eventually anger if players feel cheated based on false information. Until we can 100% put a system in place that will show players exactly when they get a Karma drop, we will not differentiate between the two. In this case, half way is not better.

Firstly I want to say that I do hold you and the team in high regard, my past inquisition regarding karma would of been settled if you'd said this in the first place.

Regarding jp notification we used to get a jp notification from the t4 lockbox when we got one.

Could that not be utilised for the karma drop somehow?

[Chump Norris]

Damn just thought about it and hope the 6 days patron pass comes before or after the 2 week snooze-fest you have planned after NFH..

6 days of patron without an event going....meh.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

what about the rewards for the on going connectivity issues?

[Bentu]

String missing is still coming up in chat on ps3 na.

[hempman]

Bugs with arkfalls aren't addressed, bugs with connectivity aren't addressed, bugs with netcode aren't addressed, and bugs with the launcher and in-game stability aren't addressed... BUT ... Trion rushes to fix the problem wherein people that didn't pay for a patron pass ended up getting jackpots. Their programming team was at first convinced it was a trivial visual glitch but once they found it wasn't, single-day job.

Shows their priorities, they're more concerned about being paid than putting forth a good product.

Truth be told, I'd rather see the random crit/PSN kick/hard PS3 freeze on game quit combos become a thing of the past before seeing a new event.

this guy has a Valid point destro...perhaps youd care to be Transparent about those issues?
or why it was SOOOOOO important that you fix the karma carp Immediately Instead of the server issues?
and even more Disturbing,,
why is it that you use Us as Your Test mules instead of you know,Testing stuff Yourselves!!
preferably before you Sell this stuff!!

and,something thats been bothering me for a lonnnnng time.
why is it,you are so happy announcing the newest carp bundles for sale,
and yet the game itself is almost always broken?
is that the only point of Pride you have in this game,is making up new garbage to buy?
thats not really a mark of greatness for a developer,just in case you didnt know that.....


is it possible for you to answer Any of this?

[Lamar Kendrick]

thanks for the extra 6 days of patron

[Ronin9572]

this guy has a Valid point destro...perhaps youd care to be Transparent about those issues?
or why it was SOOOOOO important that you fix the karma carp Immediately Instead of the server issues?
and even more Disturbing,,
why is it that you use Us as Your Test mules instead of you know,Testing stuff Yourselves!!
preferably before you Sell this stuff!!

and,something thats been bothering me for a lonnnnng time.
why is it,you are so happy announcing the newest carp bundles for sale,
and yet the game itself is almost always broken?
is that the only point of Pride you have in this game,is making up new garbage to buy?
thats not really a mark of greatness for a developer,just in case you didnt know that.....


is it possible for you to answer Any of this?

It is sad how these things are dealt with. I doubt any of those questions will be answered. Many of us have been asking so many questions for so long and they'll never be addressed. Smh...