Patron Pass And Loyalty Points

[Greybush]

do you realize that they recently increased the patron benefits recently enough that they haven't even updated their own website yet?

https://www.trionworlds.com/defiance/en/store/

you do also realize that what you're proposing that trion should give patrons $100 worth of bits a month for spending $10?

buying patron passes with loyalty would enable a player to continue to buy patron passes without ever spending any more money in the game and would basically stop all revenue and there would be no more incentive for a business to support it.

No matter how many times it's explained to them, ppl like the OP will never get it. Handouts do NOT encourage spending. It only encourages ppl to hold their hands out.

[Ronin9572]

No matter how many times it's explained to them, ppl like the OP will never get it. Handouts do NOT encourage spending. It only encourages ppl to hold their hands out.

This is very true, and we're seeing more of these players daily

[stoodakiss]

I don't believe he's insinuating that you should be able to buy patron passes with loyalty. His list is how much loyalty he believes you should receive from each individual purchase.

Instead of giving everything you can purchase individual amounts of loyalty received, Trion should just give loyalty for the amount of bits purchased since it takes bits to buy anything from the Defiance store.

well, that's way more reasonable than purchasing bit store items with loyalty but still, when you buy a patron pass you are already receiving loyalty for buying it. for example, a 14-day patron pass comes with 14 loyalty because you get 1 per day.

[stayloc]

I don't believe he's insinuating that you should be able to buy patron passes with loyalty. His list is how much loyalty he believes you should receive from each individual purchase.

Instead of giving everything you can purchase individual amounts of loyalty received, Trion should just give loyalty for the amount of bits purchased since it takes bits to buy anything from the Defiance store.

One word, true.

[Johnny Gatt]

We are lucky to have the loyalty vendor at all. Yes it takes a while to save up loyalty, but it gives time to think about which one you will get when you finally reach 500. They made it 500 loyalty for a reason. They limited which purchases grant loyalty for a reason. The bit store is primarily an online gambling site. They make more money selling a chance to get an item than they would if they simply sold a particular item. They do not want you earning too much loyalty too fast as this disrupts the bitstore business model.

[Skiller115]

Can we not make the game easy

Too late pursuit leveling already gone....

[Calm like a Bomb]

well, that's way more reasonable than purchasing bit store items with loyalty but still, when you buy a patron pass you are already receiving loyalty for buying it. for example, a 14-day patron pass comes with 14 loyalty because you get 1 per day.

That is true, I forgot all about pp's rewarding loyalty...but still give x amount of loyalty for bits purchased because you get no loyalty for inventory slots, key code cap, chip pullers, arkforge, outfits, ect..wouldn't it make sense to recieve loyalty from any bitstore purchase?

Those that decide to purchase a patron pass would get x amount of loyalty from x amount of bits purchased and would ensure they gain daily loyalty for the duration of their patronship...and those who don't purchase a patron pass would still gain loyalty for x amount of bits purchased.

So let's see, if I'm not mistaken, buying event crates grant you 2 loyalty, those crates are no more than 400 bits...so make it where you buy 400 bits grants you 2 or 3 loyalty, 1800 bits 6 or so and 5200 bits 10-12 loyalty...those ain't crazy numbers and would satisfy the players who don't buy patron passes or non loyalty granting items. Does that sound reasonable?

[Bentu]

Can we not make the game easy

What do you find difficult?

Too late pursuit leveling already gone....

You can still do pursuits to level quicker.

[Mr Devlin]

That is true, I forgot all about pp's rewarding loyalty...but still give x amount of loyalty for bits purchased because you get no loyalty for inventory slots, key code cap, chip pullers, arkforge, outfits, ect..wouldn't it make sense to recieve loyalty from any bitstore purchase?

Those that decide to purchase a patron pass would get x amount of loyalty from x amount of bits purchased and would ensure they gain daily loyalty for the duration of their patronship...and those who don't purchase a patron pass would still gain loyalty for x amount of bits purchased.

So let's see, if I'm not mistaken, buying event crates grant you 2 loyalty, those crates are no more than 400 bits...so make it where you buy 400 bits grants you 2 or 3 loyalty, 1800 bits 6 or so and 5200 bits 10-12 loyalty...those ain't crazy numbers and would satisfy the players who don't buy patron passes or non loyalty granting items. Does that sound reasonable?

Actually PP gives you 10 loyalty per week, if you log in every day (hence..loyalty).
If they gave you loyalty for just buying bits, then the loyalty isn't there. If you are rewarded for just spending money instead of faithfully playing everyday it's not quite the same. Just my 2 bits worth.......

[mitch00uk]

think ur wrong there

what bout those who play every day and spend