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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Bentu View Post
    Can you elaborate on your toonz please, are these separate account or alts on same account and are they on the same or different servers as in eu/na?

    Thank you.
    Hi Bentu, they are all separate accounts and all in PC NA.

    Additional info:
    They all come in the same arkfalls together, maybe 2 toonz had a couple of arkfall more than the others, and I ran only my main toon when there was so much lag ingame.

    Below is the distribution of 19 JPs on 6 toonz 'with PP'
    main = 6jps
    2nd = 5jps
    3rd = 2jps
    4th = 2jps
    5th = 3jps
    6th = 1jp

    edit: there were no duplicate JPs in one toon

    At least now I know which accounts to avoid, the next time I think of buying PP again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zakuroichi View Post
    Hi Bentu, they are all separate accounts and all in PC NA.

    Additional info:
    They all come in the same arkfalls together, maybe 2 toonz had a couple of arkfall more than the others, and I ran only my main toon when there was so much lag ingame.

    Below is the distribution of 19 JPs on 6 toonz 'with PP'
    main = 6jps
    2nd = 5jps
    3rd = 2jps
    4th = 2jps
    5th = 3jps
    6th = 1jp

    edit: there were no duplicate JPs in one toon

    At least now I know which accounts to avoid, the next time I think of buying PP again.
    What I was trying to find out was if you had 6 separate patron passes on different accounts.

    If all 6 toonz are on the same account they will pull from the same patron pass.

  3. #33
    Dell i gotcha with karm 2x donner and prancer
    PSN ID: WagnerSerrato Defiance: Glitterman/Ego 6000 Guild: Pride Brazil

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    Hello Wagner Deathblow,

    Looking at your account, you acquired a patron pass on 12/28, and prior to that have only had the free compensation 3 day patron. Karma is currently working for your account since you purchased a patron pass, and I see it is increasing over time. Your karma is indeed working, however you have not had a patron pass for the previous 400 majors you have completed, only the past few dozen. I hope that you get a jackpot soon!
    Hello, Destromathe, nice to meet you.

    Thanks for the answer. I have in mind that I had PP for a few days in this last event, but I took into account the experience of my clanmates.

    However, thank you for wishing me luck in the future and wish you the same.

    We are conquering many Brazilians for the game that we both love and for our clan ... I count on your help, to help them even more.

    TYVM.
    Wagner

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin9572 View Post
    Been playing since September 2014, before there were even events. I've played hard as many of my friends and clan mates watched them get JP after JP, T4 drop after T4 drop and I wait 8 months to a year...Tried almost every trick in the book, didn't help. But my friends and clan mates kept raking them in. Know plenty of players with WAY worse RNG than me, Day 1 players who still never got a JP or didn't till they got Karma PP drop. Not saying karma don't work, but it's all tied to your RNG just like everything else. This last event I never received or saw a single ERR of any tier. This has been the second event this has happened to me since Karma started. I believe Trion has manipulated the drop rates overall to force ppl to buy patrons or event boxes. Oh and on to the weighted RNG, I just got 10 OJ blasters this event, but not a single OJ det, bolter, or battery. I'd say almost half my weapons drops were the plasma blaster. So while I have no forms for my RNG, I remember what I get. So while some go 50-75 majors before a karma drop there are others doing 400+ and still no luck. Yes karma works, but it's tied to your RNG. So gl to all patrons!
    Hi Ronin, i believe we are in the same situation

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Deacon Blue View Post
    I love how people come here saying they've had 400 majors and no jp then the devs check and they've had 24 lol
    In the event, I did more than 400 certainly, more like Destro said, I only had 6 days of PP ... as I played 5 of these 6 days, surely I made more than 100 mjr ... if the Destro wants and can verify this, he You can say ... Well, my post was intended to make doubts and not cause controversy, nor to make fun of me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner DeathBlow View Post
    In the event, I did more than 400 certainly, more like Destro said, I only had 6 days of PP ... as I played 5 of these 6 days, surely I made more than 100 mjr ... if the Destro wants and can verify this, he You can say ... Well, my post was intended to make doubts and not cause controversy, nor to make fun of me!
    I do understand the intention of your post Wagner, as mine was simply meant to clarify your statement and inform. At no point, should any player make fun of you for posting your honest opinion. However, there can be a stigma attached to RNG, and Karma in general, so I always try to make sure that as much of the facts are presented as possible, so players do not panic and think 400+ arkfalls without getting a jackpot is normal.

    In regards to your actual number while having patron, this is not something that I like to do, publicly or privately. We have repeatedly stated that we will not put a karma meter in game, and this would be no different. It would also provide information to other players that they simply do not need to know, and open up avenues for possible insult, regardless of the number. Instead, I would encourage you to continue playing with the patron pass, and I can assure you that at the rate at which you complete arkfalls, karma will reward you (don't worry, karma will roll into the next event).

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Destromathe View Post
    I do understand the intention of your post Wagner, as mine was simply meant to clarify your statement and inform. At no point, should any player make fun of you for posting your honest opinion. However, there can be a stigma attached to RNG, and Karma in general, so I always try to make sure that as much of the facts are presented as possible, so players do not panic and think 400+ arkfalls without getting a jackpot is normal.

    In regards to your actual number while having patron, this is not something that I like to do, publicly or privately. We have repeatedly stated that we will not put a karma meter in game, and this would be no different. It would also provide information to other players that they simply do not need to know, and open up avenues for possible insult, regardless of the number. Instead, I would encourage you to continue playing with the patron pass, and I can assure you that at the rate at which you complete arkfalls, karma will reward you (don't worry, karma will roll into the next event).

    I understand Destro. I didn't want to and i don't want you to open any information, just said it in the intention to state that what i said up to here is not a lie, just a fact.

    Thanks for the clarifications and I hope things improve for me =)

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Bentu View Post
    What I was trying to find out was if you had 6 separate patron passes on different accounts.

    If all 6 toonz are on the same account they will pull from the same patron pass.
    Sorry, I thought I was clear.
    They are all on different/separate accounts having their own individual PPs, and are all in PC NA.

  10. #40
    I'm pretty consistent on what hrs I can actually play the game and I do receive jps more frequently with patpass and its great to have the added benefit of more af to preme them. Extra ammo and stems and spikes and nads ohh my ! That too :-)

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