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    the karma bar is score based . the higher your score the faster you fill up your karma bar. its kinda like your exp bar

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    the karma bar is score based . the higher your score the faster you fill up your karma bar. its kinda like your exp bar
    LOL no it's not stop spreading bad information. You get 1 point per major event arkfall you do. Karma technically can drop at any time but usually hit's between 70-100 majors. If you keep track of the majors you do and you hit 100 majors without a jackpot... do a trouble ticket and have them check your account. I hit about 20 majors a day and receive a jackpot twice a week with Patron pass. Score has absolutly nothing to do with it.


    Hate : I don't know what you mean by the old way excepting pre-karma... in which case I know a number of players who never got a jackpot unless it was a guaranteed one (Usually account locked). That is why on PC players run multiple toons to increase the chance at a JP drop. By the calculations of myself and a number of other players who multi-toon events it's roughly 180-200 hours of event playtime to get a jackpot without patron. If you don't know how to shard hop or are on a slower server then it will be more then that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menetekel View Post
    LOL no it's not stop spreading bad information. You get 1 point per major event arkfall you do.
    LOL.The same could be said of you. Stop spreading bad information! Where did you come up with this one karma point per major? More like a percentage of a point. No dev has ever said we get 1 karma per major, infact, karma is hush hush, no one but the devs know how karma really works.
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    Im a day one player i think i know alot more about this game then most and i know how to phase jump .I have gotten jp guns back to back before the karma system ,hell i got 3 in one day before .200 hours to get a jp gun dont you think thats an exaggeration no one can spend that much time doing events unless your a mindless zombie that has no other needs .If u have to do 70 to 100 arkfalls to get a jp using the karma system then i would say karma is broken .I think your calculator is broken too and you might be the one spreading misinformation .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calm like a Bomb View Post
    Stop spreading bad information! Where did you come up with this one karma point per major?
    Karma is represented by the "Purchase Completed" at the end of a major event arkfalls.
    You can get one of these per major event so that's one point.
    No one I know has gone past 100 majors without getting a Karma jackpot.


    Telling people that Karma has anything to do with score is incorrect... that would be like saying hay the higher your score the more likely you are to get a non-karma jackpot drop... which is equally incorrect. I would love for the devs to be more active and informative on the forums and to correct and provide appropriate information but until they do I will provide it to the best of my abilities and counteract anyone who is blatantly misinforming people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menetekel View Post
    Karma is represented by the "Purchase Completed" at the end of a major event arkfalls.
    You can get one of these per major event so that's one point.
    That is true, you get a "Purchase Complete" after event major arkfalls but that's to let you know that yes, indeed, your patron pass is working...your not necessarily receiving a point, more than likely it's a percentage of a point you recieve. If you received a karma point per arkfall and need 100 points for a guaranteed jackpot then I would see no reason for the devs to not include a karma counter but since karma is its own mystical entity you probably only recieve fractions of points in which you could never know exactly where your karma sits...and that's the way the devs like it, just as real life karma works, with a little mystery.
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    Can you please explain more about purchase complete. Because i have had many of them yet no reward. And what you just said may explain why. But im still a little confused by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch00uk View Post
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    Can you please explain more about purchase complete. Because i have had many of them yet no reward. And what you just said may explain why. But im still a little confused by it.
    From what I understand, if you have a patron pass, after every event major final arkfall "purchase complete" will pop up just as a confirmation that you have received some karma...eventually after doing so many arkfalls your karma will build up its percentage to where it's 100% where it has no option but to give you a jackpot. but you may recieve a jackpot before you ever build up your karma meter to the 100% threshold. Everytime you recieve a jackpot your karma meter resets back to 0.

    I see karma basically as an extra roll at rewards, with each failed roll you'll recieve a weighted roll of however many percentages of a point karma rewards at each subsequent final until you either get a jackpot or have your karma built up to 100% where it has to reward a jackpot...then once you get one, no matter which way you get it, your karma resets back to 0 and you start the grind all over.

    That's how I interpret karma, I could be wrong. Idk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calm like a Bomb View Post
    From what I understand, if you have a patron pass, after every event major final arkfall "purchase complete" will pop up just as a confirmation that you have received some karma...eventually after doing so many arkfalls your karma will build up its percentage to where it's 100% where it has no option but to give you a jackpot. but you may recieve a jackpot before you ever build up your karma meter to the 100% threshold. Everytime you recieve a jackpot your karma meter resets back to 0.

    I see karma basically as an extra roll at rewards, with each failed roll you'll recieve a weighted roll of however many percentages of a point karma rewards at each subsequent final until you either get a jackpot or have your karma built up to 100% where it has to reward a jackpot...then once you get one, no matter which way you get it, your karma resets back to 0 and you start the grind all over.

    That's how I interpret karma, I could be wrong. Idk

    Thats how i understood the Karma

    What i didn't know was about the purhase complete bit. So thank you for that info. I always thought i recieved something that i couldnt find.

    But i think your 100% right about karma and it was wonderfully put. again thank you for your time.

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